Advancing our Knowledge on NFT's with Dr. Bee

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Jaden Norvell: 0:53

this is the best stop for entrepreneurship in self development talk hosted by the doctor himself Dr. Dustin Steffey co hosted by entrepreneur and sports talk host Jaden Rush Norville This is choppin with Fire

Dustin Steffey: 1:30

Hello chop nation Welcome to another episode of chopping with fire. You're joined with your hosts Dustin Steffey and Jadan Norvell whats up Chop nation. Why do you always do that? So prematurely? It's like JADEN NORVELL,

Jaden Norvell: 1:42

I was thinking as you're itroducing me

Dustin Steffey: 1:44

never got this perfectly clean. Ever. And you don't speak into the mic guy there. That's the worst part. You got to work on your microphone etiquette. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, let's introduce our guests. I'm excited today because we get to talk about NF T's which I feel like nobody knows what they are. So it's going to be real fun.

Jaden Norvell: 2:05

You've all heard of NF T's but I'm excited to get into what they are. Why don't you introduce I guess you will tell me you

Dustin Steffey: 2:12

think you've heard of NF T's? It's not the snack that you had five minutes ago? What would or not talking about what you just ate? Okay. Talking about making money, Jaden making money.

Jaden Norvell: 2:31

I like that. Yeah.

Dustin Steffey: 2:33

I don't know. Have you made any money yet? Well, how much a penny doesn't help.

Jaden Norvell: 2:38

You really want? You want to do this right now? Oh, oh, yeah, she's out. No comment.

Dustin Steffey: 2:46

All right, let's introduce our guest, she has to be able to join into the banter. So we have on with us, Dr. B, Dr. Bee. How are you?

Dr. Bee: 2:55

I'm doing well. Thank you for having me.

Dustin Steffey: 2:59

Well, thank you for joining the circus of us.

Dr. Bee: 3:05

That's good. I'm glad to be a part of this circus.

Dustin Steffey: 3:10

We just We just like to have fun, which is a little bit but obviously we're gonna get down to the brass tacks in business. But first, I'd love for you to kind of just introduce yourself to our audience.

Dr. Bee: 3:22

Okay, well, my name is Dr. B. And, you know, I started my first company in 2007. Since then I've launched several companies. I've been in the cannabis space. I've been helping women entrepreneurs, and I've also entered into the NFT space recently. I have a background in federal law enforcement. I also used to be a college professor. And I'm an Air Force veteran. So I'm really excited about being here. And a little loud over here. Audio there

Dustin Steffey: 4:01

not to be well, first and foremost, Dr. B, thank you for your service, obviously being a veteran. So thank you for your service. Secondly, you've been within the federal federal part of things. Jaden has someone paid parking tickets.

Jaden Norvell: 4:18

You and ours coming after me. I wish you we wish your doggy come see this new Top Gun movie with us.

Dr. Bee: 4:29

Yeah, so my background is pretty is pretty layered. But I use all of the the knowledge and the skills that I think I've collected in various jobs, you know, worked for the government for over 12 years to kind of help me today. As a human being I feel like all of the skills that you develop over time can help you right here and right now.

Dustin Steffey: 4:51

Yeah, you definitely have a robust background. So that's some good news there. Tell me a little bit about your background within NF TS

Dr. Bee: 5:00

Okay, so the NFT world came about for me, I want to say a few months ago. And actually someone told me about NF T's. Back in 20. I want to say 2020. But I was no 2021. But I was just like what? They said, Hey, you ought to get involved in NF Ts and I just wrote down the word NF t, because I was like, I don't even I don't even know what that is. And then I just went on my merry way. But I was consulting a lot of women at the time, and one of my clients actually, was trying to figure out exactly what direction she wanted to go in with her art, she had been creating clothing, and she'd be she created, you know, other art. And then she said to me, Well, you know, I'm gonna get into the NFT space. So she got into this NFT world. And the next thing, you know, she was traveling, and creating virtual art, traveling throughout the world and creating these digital virtual art pieces in real time. And I said, Wow, that's really cool. And so she started actually teaching me about NF T's. And I thought, wow, this is a unique experience the first time, you know, she started telling me about these NF T's. I started looking at it from a business standpoint and wondering, well, how can a person move their web to business into web three, and so that kind of piqued my interest at first. So that's how I got started. Basically, just so happened, one of my clients became an NFT artists, and then she, you know, started teaching me about NF T's and I said, okay, cool.

Dustin Steffey: 6:46

What you stand for, aside from what Jaden laughed at.

Dr. Bee: 6:52

Okay, and NFT is a non fungible token. Okay. It's in pretty much it's like, it's like having, it's a digital asset, which basically is used to represent unique ownership of a unique object. So there's different commodities and other non fungible tokens. But anyway, NF T's kind of give you digital scarcity. Owners can transfer non fungible tokens to other owners through a smart contract. So it really is a mouthful. But basically, an NF T is a non fungible token. It's almost like having a unique piece of art that no one else has that is something that's created in the blockchain that has its own unique, its own unique aura, say maybe like, number its own unique. You want to say, yeah, like its own unique number, like its own unique thing, no one else can own it, only you can own it. So once you are an owner of an NFT, that is your exclusive piece of art. And it's something that's recorded in the blockchain indefinitely.

Dustin Steffey: 8:08

We make money on it. Well, you can make monies on

Dr. Bee: 8:11

your NFCs. And in many ways, you know, first of all, you can sell your NF t's on the blockchain, that's one way that you can make money with it. And then once a person you know, collects, like your NFT, it's almost like, it's almost like they become part owner of your NFT. Another thing that you can do with your NF T and people who create who collect your NF TS is you can build a sense of community around that NFT. In other words, what you can do is you can give back to the people that brought that purchased your art to begin with. Again, it's just like, if someone let's just say, you know, if you had a pair of Levi's or whatever, and then all of a sudden, you know, a person buys a pair of Levi's, and then all of a sudden, they're connected to the Levi company, like they have some say, so they have some, it's like they're part of the Levi family. Okay, so I know that that might be a mouthful for people. But basically, it's like you're creating a community when you create your piece of art. So one of the ways that you can benefit your community, of course, is by giving back to your community. So, NF T's it's more than just creating art, it's more than just creating an exclusive piece of art on the internet. It's more than just selling it to people, which is a whole process in itself. But it's also about creating a community and it's also about giving back to the people that actually purchased your art. Another cool thing about NF TS is any time like your art is sold, like you can still benefit from it as an artist just depends up pens on how you set up your NFT. So you can get paid indefinitely for your one NFT that you can you create, which is why it's really I mean, I think artists are attracted to it because it gives them first of all more control. And it gives them this ability to make money indefinitely. And it gives them this ability to give back and create a community with their art.

Dustin Steffey: 10:17

Oh, does one go about getting the NFT into the blockchain? Is that where mentoring comes into play?

Dr. Bee: 10:24

Yeah, mentoring, and there's a few ways to do it. Okay, so there's something called lazy minting. And that's something you can do on a platform like open seat, for example, you can go on open sea open sea is one of the largest places where NF T artists actually put their art. So you go through this whole process of minting your art, which is basically putting it on the blockchain, once someone buys your art on the blockchain, then it is meant it. So open sea is a way that you can go about starting the process of minting your art. There's also other ways that you can do it too. There's many other platforms. And it also can depend on the type of art that you want to create in NFT space. So let's say if you want to create music, art, there may be another platform that might be better for you to meet your your music NFT versus if you wanted to create like, like a standard piece of like a painting or something like that. So you know, there's a lot of platforms where you can actually make your NFT, you can also create your own contract. There's so many options in this space. Yet, if a person was just starting out, I would say open see would be a good place to mint. Because it's very easy. And well when I say easy. And nothing in this web three spaces easy as you probably guessed by me attempting to explain all this jibber jabber. But at the same time, it's easier on open sea than it would be like if you are creating your own digital contract, which is a process in itself.

Dustin Steffey: 12:07

So with all of that being said, if Gayden was to create an NF, T, going to open see spinnings magic get that going? How does he promote his art or to I don't know, get out there enough to grow big?

Dr. Bee: 12:28

Well, you know, one of the things that people I think the mistakes that people make, yeah, is that they create this piece of art, let's say on open sea, but then they don't, they don't have any type of plan in the first place of how they're going to sell their art. Because number one, they're not in places where where people are familiar with the webseries space. Now, one of the things that I would suggest for any new artists is that they get on Twitter. Because Twitter, I mean, Twitter has seen a revival, I think with this in the NFT world, because of the new offerings, they actually have a Twitter space. People go on and they talk about their NF T's. So a lot of the people in the NFT world are in Twitter spaces. There also is something called like discourse. And a Discord is very important because it's it's like an instant messaging, social media platform will all things NFT and gaming are discussed. So I will suggest that they start joining some discord as well. Again, open sea is a place to start when it comes to minting again, NFT is a non fungible token, which is like creating an exclusive piece of art, which once you create that art and a person buys that art, they own that art and it's recorded on the blockchain. And yeah, so OPC is a place where you can actually upload mint and buy NF Ts and it's one of the world's largest platforms use to sell NF T's and 22.

Dustin Steffey: 14:05

Another question that I might want to ask is everybody we just got off three episodes of cryptocurrency and a lot of people are skittish in investing in crypto because of how volatile it is. Very, very skittish. I mean, for the people that are familiar with crypto, it's something that I'm tolerant with or I know how to invest in when you invest in it is what it is. But for someone new coming in, they're skittish. Is NF T our NF T's volatile as well.

Dr. Bee: 14:39

Yeah. I think everything is volatile to a certain degree, especially when it's new. You know, because a lot of people are still learning about it, you know, but that was the same, you know, coming from the cannabis space and with CBD at some point, you know, people didn't know what CBD was. And so they were skittish about getting involved in that space and investors were skittish, but then of course, those who, who had vision, you know, and those who could see, you know, beyond just were the here and the now they actually took advantage. And those are the people that that benefit the ones who actually take advantage of the opportunities, you know, so, you know, the NFT world, I feel like we're just on the cusp, there's so much more to be learned. And there's so much more to be gained from this space, that I would have to say for anyone who is skittish that they really want to think long term. And think about the endless possibilities with this, this is an opportunity to bring your world into your web two world into web, three, NF T's is just one way to do it. And yet with NF T's alone, there's so much room because again, the artists is has more control the artists is more connected to their community that artists can make money indefinitely. The artists is the owner.

Dustin Steffey: 16:09

Say that NF T's are similar to cryptocurrency, just from the sheer fact that everything is digital with it. So that's why they kind of roll up crypto and NF T's together?

Dr. Bee: 16:18

Oh, absolutely, I would say that. Absolutely. They're very similar. You know, the difference is, is that, you know, you you can do so much more with the NF T's. Because again, you can use them within your business, for example, all the people that buy your energy, you were talking about, like how how to make how to make money with NF T's. It's not just about selling your NF T's, you know, for X amount of eats, it's also about being able to reach out to your your customers that have already purchased your NF T's like for example, you can sell tickets to the people who have who have already purchased your NF T's they're already in your community, you can sell passes for events, because you already have track you already have record of the people who have purchased your NF T's you can constantly market to them, you can constantly give back to them, you can constantly, you know, bring other offers to them. Again, you're creating this sense of community, when you create a piece of digital art is not just about that one time sale, it's really about creating a lifelong customer and giving lifelong value. That's why it's it's very intriguing to me

Dustin Steffey: 17:36

wonder if any podcasts have started to dabble within NF T's? Because I mean, we're community in ourselves. We're trying to build a following, right. So it would make sense.

Dr. Bee: 17:48

Absolutely. Yeah, I would, I would think that I mean, there's people who create all kinds of NF T's like I know, there's filmmakers who create NF T's now. So I would imagine whatever, whatever platform you have, you know, in this, in the web two space is a platform that you can develop for the web three space, including your podcast, which is really cool. When you think about it. Again, we're talking about, you know, expanding to another market and expanding beyond just this experience. And really, when you when you think about it, you know, putting control in the hands of the creators versus the hands of the corporations is huge. It's very revolutionary, you know, and that's why I think NF T's are here to stay, that they're not just a fly by night thing. Because again, you're creating this sense of community and people have more control, and they don't have to necessarily ask for permission. You don't have to go through, you know, big brother and big sister in order to get things done. You can actually establish your own business, right in web three. Cool.

Dustin Steffey: 19:00

That's really cool. We're gonna we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back, Jaden woke up from his nap. So he's gonna ask some questions.

Dr. Bee: 19:10

Awesome,

Dustin Steffey: 19:12

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Jaden Norvell: 20:02

to Dr. B. What I've gathered so far is MMT is our digital art marketplace for people to purchase art. Couple questions. You said a funky word started with the E it had to do with the currency that NF T's are traded in the ether.

Dr. Bee: 20:21

Yeah, II Okay, so ether short for Aetherium. And Aetherium is the world's most popular cryptocurrency that allows for digital transactions within the virtual space. So it's typically what you would use, you know, to, to do a transaction in the web three space, like you need to have eath like in this world, you know, in this in this reality that we currently live on, we use, you know, dollars, we use the Fiat notes, but in the digital world, you'd have to use digital money and Aetherium is an example of a digital digital money. So

Jaden Norvell: 21:02

I don't know what that is. We covered that last episode, and the episode before the episode before the episode.

Dr. Bee: 21:10

Yeah, I mean, again, you know, it's that's probably and I would imagine you would occur covered it especially if you're talking about cryptocurrency because cryptocurrency is a type of digital currency. So eath is, is another cryptocurrency, but it's used to allow for digital transactions within the virtual space. So yes, you know, a lot of times I think, people think that maybe they can say, for example, they can just go out there, go type up, you know, create my nft.com and then just automatically go about creating this piece of art. But no, no. Before you get to that step, there's you have to set up your digital wallet and things like that. In order for you to play in the digital world. You have to have digital money. In order to create in the digital world you have to have digital money

Dustin Steffey: 22:04

that we talked about. I think when people think cryptocurrency they think that point because that's kind of like Papa of all of cryptocurrency. But I had made a bold statement, the last episode that I don't like Bitcoin. I'm not, I'm not. I'm invested in it, but not very much. Because I think Aetherium is more versatile. So yeah, so I'm more invested in Aetherium and the tokens and coins within the Aetherium space than I am within Bitcoin.

Dr. Bee: 22:40

Yeah, there's so many. First of all, there's so many coins out there. And but the reason why people are so familiar with Bitcoin is because it's currently the world's most popular familiar and well known cryptocurrency, at least in 2022. But there's a

Dustin Steffey: 22:57

$19,000 big dip.

Dr. Bee: 22:59

Right, right. But think about think about, like, you know, the people that that again, started early on, you know, with Bitcoin and what and how successful that they've become become with it. Again, there's so many coins, another type of cryptocurrency that you will see, when you're creating digital art or another option that you have people you can have people pay you and polygon, which is another type of cryptocurrency that has low gas fees, with Aetherium. Oftentimes, you can have high gas fees, and a gas fee is what you pay to conduct a transaction on the blockchain. But with polygon, you have lower gas fees. So sometimes people who create their art, let's say that you create a piece of art and what an open See, then you can actually have people pay you with polygon versus eath. Which is a good thing because then they don't have to pay sometimes they don't have to pay as much gas again, gas is a what you would pay to conduct a transaction on the blockchain.

Jaden Norvell: 24:05

Let's take a step back. This at the bear level, you keep mentioning e two, e three. What are you talking about?

Dr. Bee: 24:13

Okay, so anytime I say E are you mean web to web three? Yes, ma'am. Okay. So web two is the current web system that we're on. It's what we're familiar with. But web three is what is what we're talking about when we're when we're when when we work with eath. And when we work with, it's like the virtual world. It's like the metaverse. So when I'm talking about web three, I'm speaking about the metaverse. I'm speaking about really, where the internet is going. I feel like you know the internet right now is it's like in web two. But web three is taking us to another level is taking us into the virtual world. And I feel like that's where we're heading. You know, this is just the Beginning. But web three is again opening us up to the metaphors,

Jaden Norvell: 25:04

web tools like your Google, your Twitter's Yahoo mail, and web three is the financial aspect of the internet. It's kind of what I'm getting.

Dr. Bee: 25:14

Yeah, web three is taking us to another space. It's, it's sometimes known as web 3.0. Okay, so this is like a new type of integration of the World Wide Web that's based on blockchain technology. So it this is the type web three, when we talk about web three, we're talking about this new this new world wide web, which incorporates concepts such as decentralization and token based economics. So it's, it's really taking us to another level versus where we are now on the web three space is opening and opening us up to this new world of again, you know, this blockchain technology, which we don't currently have in the web, to space,

Jaden Norvell: 26:02

my old head, that doesn't mean you have to go get a new computer to run web three, right? You can just Google How do I know Armani terminology away.

Dustin Steffey: 26:13

Although if you do want to go get a new computer, I'd love my shares of Apple to go up. So go ahead and invest in a MacBook Pro or whatever you desire.

Dr. Bee: 26:24

No, you know, it's it's it's very interesting. But you know, you're on web three, when you start getting into this into the blockchain. When you start getting into the metaverse, when you start creating NF t's the moment you start creating NF T's and minting NF T's and getting into crypto and getting and you know, and selling your art and making eath then you have stepped into the web three space.

Jaden Norvell: 26:48

That leads me to my next question, what are the requirements for art piece? Like? What are you know, I'm sure you can't just do anything, but it also is an artistic space. So what are the requirements for an NF? T?

Dustin Steffey: 26:59

I feel like there are no requirements. I've seen some NF T's that are like pictures of dog poop. And they sell I don't know, it's weird.

Dr. Bee: 27:07

I know, it is weird. And that is a whole conversation in itself. Like okay, so what what constitutes is art? And what makes something sell? And this that, and the third, but to answer your question, you know, anything really can be turned into an NFT, if you think about it, but what's going to cause something to sell, there's a lot of other variables that are involved, like, for example, generating buzz around your particular piece of art, you know, just like you would if you were selling something in this reality and in the web to space, you know, maybe if I was selling this pin, for example, I would generate buzz, I would, you know, promoted on places that you know, are looking for pins, I will promote it with people who are looking for opinions, and blah, blah, blah. And then when I would launch it, then of course, I would have people who are interested in buying. Same thing thing with the web three space, you have to create a sense of buzz, you have to be involved in the discourse, you have to be involved in the web three space, you have to be involved in Twitter, for example, which is a place where a lot of NFT artists and people in the web three space are talking, you have to be involved with these talks in order to generate buzz. And then once you do release a product or, or service or whatever, you release a piece of art in the digital space, then you're going to be more likely to get eyes on that versus if you did not generate buzz, you know. So that's the business part of NF Ts.

Jaden Norvell: 28:46

That's a big part of a lot of artists. A lot of people will create something, but forget that they have to market it. You can be a great artist. But if you don't know how to market, chances are, you won't get anywhere for NF T's. Copyright, right. So if I take a picture on Google and I put it on NF T's, you have to follow copyright laws, it has to be your own unique artwork.

Dr. Bee: 29:08

Yeah, and that's a huge thing, you know, in the NFT space, like you can't just, you know, like, for example, I create a lot of dance choreography, you know, that's one of the things that I like to do. Yet, if I'm going to use someone else's music, I have to have permission to use their music, in order for me to actually create that dance piece, use their music, and then sell it as an NFT in the web three space. So you still have to cross all of your T's and dot all of your eyes. You can't just take someone's intellectual property and the web to space again, web to space being what we're currently familiar with. You know, when we go on www dot Google, for example. You can't just take someone's intellectual property in the web to space and then use it in the way have three space, because that's very problematic.

Jaden Norvell: 30:03

Same thing with likeness and image, if I take a picture Dustin, and I upload it, I have to get his permission to use it.

Dr. Bee: 30:09

Absolutely, you have to get his permission,

Dustin Steffey: 30:13

you do not have my permission, whoo,

Dr. Bee: 30:18

oh, or whatever. So it's like, you know, I have a lot of photographers that I work with, for example. But when I buy, or when I buy the photographer service, and I buy the pictures, I'm the owner of the pictures. So now I can actually post the pictures on my website, or I could post the pictures within my NFT, because I've already paid for them, I own them. But if you're not the owner of something, then you have to be really careful, because you can't just you can't just take someone's thing and then sell it, no matter if it is web three, you know, because that can be very problematic. I'm sure people have run into those issues, artists have run into those

Dustin Steffey: 31:02

issues, or there are many of fines that have been assessed already.

Dr. Bee: 31:08

Exactly. So you know, one thing that comes up often when I go to a lot of NFT events, because there's a lot of NF t because especially these days, is oftentimes they'll have a lawyer there. Now, again, this is similar to the cannabis space, you know, when things were kind of brand new, and even to this day, you have, you'll see lawyers coming in, and they're advising clients on what to do and what not to do. Because just like I mean, just because it's, it's not a free for all, you know, you can't just go in there, and you can't just behave unethically. Because again, you know, it's going to hurt you in the long run. So you have to make sure that you are the owner of whatever it is that you're posting in the NFT space, you said

Jaden Norvell: 31:57

that the buyer owns the artwork. So like, for example, that beautiful painting behind you, right, if he made NFC out of the painting took a picture of it, uploaded it, would you still be able to sell the physical painting to a different person?

Dr. Bee: 32:11

Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. Just just like, if you create a piece again, if using the example if you create a piece of music, which another thing I create in the virtual world, in the web, three spaces music. So if I create a piece of music, and then I posted, you know as an NF T in the in web three and Metaverse on open C, for example. That doesn't mean that I can't sell that same piece of music in the web two world like I can't download or put it on Spotify, for example. The difference is if you're creating an NFT, it's almost like again, that's the word I couldn't think of, but almost like let's just say like creating a serial code, you know, for that particular product that you have in the virtual space. You know, it's something that is uploaded on the blockchain. And the blockchain is a shared database, a type of permanent, digital unalterable spreadsheet. So whatever you do in the web three space is recorded. So let's just say I sell my music, and it's, you know, serial number 27598. And someone buys that particular music they own to 7598. It's recorded on the blockchain, which is completely different than if I'm selling my music and web two

Jaden Norvell: 33:29

questions back to back here.

Dr. Bee: 33:32

No. Isn't it exciting, though? Yeah, so you, you have to put your nerd hat on when you talk about NF T's you really?

Dustin Steffey: 33:40

Oh, well, then I'll just leave the conversation and leave Jaden here.

Jaden Norvell: 33:45

Always covered nerd out on it too. Can you sell multiples of your music? So if I own that code, you said that you said I make one you could sell it again and again and again or just to one person.

Dr. Bee: 34:01

Now you what happens is when you create some, there's a couple of ways that you can do this. Like for example, you can go on open see, you can create a one of one like a one of a kind piece, only one person gets that period. It's so that's it. Or if you want to say okay, let's say you you're recording, you've recorded a single, but you want this single to go out to multiple people, you can create multiple copies of that single and each copy has its own its own unique number, its own unique connection to whoever buys it

Jaden Norvell: 34:36

needs rise and fall like stocks, increase in value and decrease in value and you can see it

Dr. Bee: 34:43

well. Yeah, I mean, it depends, like, you know, for example, you know, I've bought art a long time ago. Yeah, and some of this art is actually worth more money now. Okay, so I can sell this art in the virtual World, and the person that originally created depending on how they wrote up their contract, they may actually still get paid from that art, they may actually still receive benefits from that art, by me selling that art. But what I love about the blockchain, I think the most exciting thing about is that everything is recorded and everything is documented. So it's like, there's a record of the original owner, there's a record of the buyer, there's a record every time this piece is sold. And yeah, it does rise, it can rise and fall in value.

Jaden Norvell: 35:38

I don't know if you've noticed these to have she has opened up a whole different world. I thought it was just pictures, but now you're saying there's music?

Dustin Steffey: 35:45

Don't give him any Id like what's gonna release a few albums?

Jaden Norvell: 35:49

What else is short movies? Is there are digital art like what? I thought it was just a picture. So what is oh,

Dustin Steffey: 35:59

it's anything that you can digitally create and put on to the web as long as you go through the minting process?

Dr. Bee: 36:09

Absolutely, that's why the sky is the limit as far as what you can create. And that's why it's just about thinking, Okay, what do I have? What do I have in the web to space? Or what do I have in this particular dimension that we live in? That I would like to introduce to web three? You know, do I have music that I would like to introduce into web three? To have books I would like to introduce into web have poetry? Do I have music videos? Do I have film? You know, whatever it is, whatever your creative genre, whatever your expertise is, in this reality in the web to space, I want people to start thinking about how they can shift that into the web three space, because that's where we're going.

Dustin Steffey: 36:58

We'll be on the lookout for Jaden the next album hide old Christian Bale soon

Jaden Norvell: 37:06

after release one.

Dr. Bee: 37:09

Yeah, I mean, I think Snoop Dogg. You know, he's now in the web three space is Yeah, yeah. And he's released music there recently. And, you know, whatever. I think whatever he released, he's sold out. So again,

Jaden Norvell: 37:24

let's give some credit to the OG Snoop Doggy ways. On the trends eat Snoop Dogg is one of the really the one formal, he's sad. He is He is contributing. He's got I got a pair of Snoop X pugs, headphones. He makes pre rolls, he makes sandals he does everything.

Dr. Bee: 37:42

He makes candles. See, I don't even know. That's funny. But you know, yeah, just again, there's a lot of similarities to me. With the NFC world in the cannabis space, meaning that, you know, it's brand new there, a lot of people are learning about it. There's endless opportunities that we don't even know yet. But it's just, you know, because it is so new. But entrepreneurs like, like Snoop are ones to watch, because they're always at the cusp of what is new and what is different and what is unique. And I feel like we can learn a lot from that type of leadership, we can learn a lot from that type of innovative thinking. They're always forward thinkers, you see. So

Jaden Norvell: 38:29

that's question for our passive di stuff. New and trending. What are some of the hottest NF t's on the market right now? Most successful ones, let's, let's sell it right now.

Dr. Bee: 38:39

First of all, there is a young lady by the name of Nyla. And she's very, she's very doing very well in the NFT space. She creates something called Long, Long Neck ladies long Nicki ladies. And they're basically ladies with extremely long necks. But this what's unique about Nyla is the fact that I think she's like 13 years old now. And I mean, I'm pretty sure that she's a multimillionaire, and now

Dustin Steffey: 39:09

you're older than you are, you know, I need to I need to give her a call.

Dr. Bee: 39:15

Yeah, you do. You do. But what's really cool about her business, besides the fact that she's so young and so intelligent, and creating these things is that she's always building up her business. So again, with her, it's not just about that one time piece of art that you purchase from her. She's always giving back to her community, for example. Anyone who buys your art in the NFT space, you can AirDrop them different things and airdropping is when you send like another NFT from your portfolio, you can give them that NFT it's almost like a gift like Hey, thank you so much for purchasing my NFT by the way, here's an extra gift You know, and it's something that she does really well, just creating this sense of surprise for her customers that actually have purchased from her. It makes you feel like you're part of a group versus just that one time, one time one sale offer. So it's one to watch.

Jaden Norvell: 40:22

A lot of artists at these little events, I go to that like Cineplex fans and stuff, and I can't help but think if they got on NMT, I might help them out a little bit, especially in the Reno area.

Dustin Steffey: 40:32

Oh, maybe Jaden, this is a calling for you to release that Christian Bale album one. And then two, with your shared experience, after you make a million dollars, mind you later. You can then share that experience with others. That'd be great.

Jaden Norvell: 40:52

let you guys know when I make a million dollars of NF

Dustin Steffey: 40:54

T's sounds great, because I'll be making that money with you. But anyway, let me let me recap a few things. So we discussed NF T's in depth. So we learned that NF T's are not only just picture assets that are digital on the web, but it's any asset that you can put on the web, whether it be music, whether it be a book, whether it be a selfie of Jaden, whatever the case may be, that's an NF t, we also learn that NF T's have to go through a platform such as open sea, or be mented, to be able to go within to the blockchain to be able to make it work, right. We also learned that you have to have a digital wallet. So our prior episodes on cryptocurrency do go hand in hand with this, on being able to successfully create an NF t. And then we also learn that Nyla is 13 years old and a millionaire and Jaden is 22. And not.

Dr. Bee: 42:04

Yes, absolutely. That covers it again, NF T are not yet. NFC art really puts the artists in control. And I think that's why it's just it's such a phenomenal opportunity for independent artists especially. Because again, it's basically decentralizing the way artists, you know, do their work, their visual artists or their digital artists, they're able to monetize art in a way that's very liberating. So you know, the concept of decentralization is about giving control to to everyone versus just having one person control everything.

Dustin Steffey: 42:47

Now, I always give our listeners the ability to get a hold of our guests. So Dr. B, how can people get a hold of you?

Dr. Bee: 42:56

Oh, they can find me on Dr B thomas.com www.dr. B thomas.com. If they want to find me on Twitter, I am at goddess Moon E if eth again, I'd love to talk to the people who are listening. I love to connect with those who are interested in learning more about this space.

Dustin Steffey: 43:19

We're also going to have your information posted on our website to link to this episode. So you can always click on her profile and go to any of the links that she graciously graciously set up for us.

Dr. Bee: 43:33

Yes, absolutely.

Dustin Steffey: 43:35

Awesome. Well, we both appreciate you. I think that this was much a much needed topic to be covered. And I think that you open the floodgate, essentially for more questions. Obviously, we don't have all day to be able to do it because no one will listen in their car all day. I don't want to ask, but we open the floodgates to information where people can be intrigued.

Jaden Norvell: 43:59

Absolutely said you have some events you're going to

Dr. Bee: 44:02

yes I do. I'm going to be let me just look at I'm going to be at NFT NYC which is going to be taking place the week of June 20. And I'm going to be speaking they're talking about NF T and how to incorporate NF T's within your business. I'm also going to be in LA I'll post that information on my website. Like yeah, I think that's in July. So I'm always speaking at different events just sharing the word about how to incorporate NF T's and what NF T's are and and how really to get your business in the web three space moving from web to to web three.

Dustin Steffey: 44:46

Comic Relief at any of those speaking events. You can definitely invite Jane in and I'll just be the bodyguard

Dr. Bee: 44:55

oh well yes, I can use a bodyguard and and a comedian.

Dustin Steffey: 44:59

Yeah And you can even Jaden has jokes. He's cracked none of them today.

Dr. Bee: 45:05

I love jokes. Yeah, you'll find that that what I found with the NFT community is that people are very eclectic and they're very loving and they do have a wicked sense of humor.

Dustin Steffey: 45:17

Perfect. So Jaden will fit right in. Not only does he look like the weekend, but he fits in as a comedian.

Jaden Norvell: 45:23

That's you that will factor into his background. Gonna Be careful out there. San Diego Will's gonna get you. Last thing, any charity stalker, you want a shout out? Um,

Dr. Bee: 45:37

let's see charities? Well, I would say, Oh, I currently give back to children's International. That's a charity that's really near and dear to me. I feel like giving back to children is super important again, because the children really are our future. These are the people that are creating innovative things, innovative products for us to move forward as a humanity. So giving back to children is huge for me.

Dustin Steffey: 46:08

Perfect. Well, Dr. B, we thank you very, very much. I'm sorry, you had to deal with Jaden. But I love JD and it's just so easy so

Dr. Bee: 46:26

you guys vote I know people can't see you but you guys are both extremely handsome. And you know if your listeners could see you then they would they would most certainly be pleased.

Dustin Steffey: 46:37

Jaden single so if anybody wants

Dr. Bee: 46:43

and he has nice teeth you guy

Dustin Steffey: 46:47

and he looks like the weekend so if you want to date a celebrity There you go.

Dr. Bee: 46:51

He's just not a millionaire yet but he's gonna put out some NF T music. So

Dustin Steffey: 46:56

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