Desire & Grit Feat: Ira & Dwayne

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Jaden Norvell: 0:51

This is the best stop for entrepreneurship and self development talk hosted by the doctor himself Dr. Dustin Steffey co hosted by entrepreneur and sports talk host Jaden rush, Norville, this is Choppin with Fire. Chop nation you are joined with Dustin Steffey and Jaden Norvell, What's up Chop Nation.

Dustin Steffey: 1:37

How are you doing today? Jaden

Jaden Norvell: 1:38

doing good man. I had a good interview with Dwayne earlier, back again for round two already. So let's introduce our guests today!

Dustin Steffey: 1:47

Yeah, absolutely. So we have two very special guests today, one that we've interviewed before Dwayne Taylor, welcome back, buddy.

Dwayne Taylor: 1:56

It's great to be here as always looking forward to, you know, chopping it up with, like I said before, two of the best in the business. So let's let's get it started.

Dustin Steffey: 2:05

We decided to multiply and add one more IRA. Welcome to the podcast, buddy. We are happy to have you.

Ira Ross Jr: 2:12

Yeah, thanks a lot. I'm happy to be here.

Dustin Steffey: 2:15

Yeah, you're looking. You're looking quite fun over there. Where are you at these days? Ira.

Ira Ross Jr: 2:19

I'm in Houston, Texas right now.

Dustin Steffey: 2:21

I wish I were there.

Jaden Norvell: 2:23

Yeah. So you won't be wishing here in a couple of months. It gets real hot. Yeah.

Ira Ross Jr: 2:28

Yeah. And it's been raining that day. So it's interesting place. But good to me.

Dustin Steffey: 2:37

I want to talk about and continue our journey down mentorship. So like we spoke on last week with Dwayne, I want to continue with mentorship and I want to continue with you, IRA because not only do you have a powerful story to tell, you have plenty of mentors that have passed through in your life and you are a successful real estate person as well. Correct?

Ira Ross Jr: 3:02

Yes, yeah. I've had a lot of people that have helped me along the way and I don't know about successful but I'm, I'm an aspiring real estate professional.

Dustin Steffey: 3:10

Okay, we will keep it out aspiring and professional. So why don't you Why don't you tell us a little bit about your journey. I know that you are an ex athlete as well, correct?

Ira Ross Jr: 3:22

Yes, yes. So born and raised in California, went to High School in Sacramento, California. Valley High School, played defensive one there. Ended up at a JUCO and a second one, the city junior college, and then found my way to New Mexico State University where I ran into Dewayne so I played defensive in and defensive tackle at New Mexico State. I majored in Family and Consumer Science. My father owned boys facilities in the Bay Area. So the game plan was to play ball for as long as I can, and then come back and try to help my community and working in those boys facilities. So that's kind of what started me on my entrepreneurial path. My mom was kind of into real estate. My dad was more living in the Bay, but doing group homes and boys facility. So once I graduated from school, I ended up back living in Piedmont, working in Richmond with my dad and I was facilities and just learned a lot about education. I wasn't really an academic person, when I went to school was more about football. It was what kind of drew me into into college and doing those type of things was football. And so I ended up learning a few things while I was there and ended up working at a couple boys facilities in the Bay Area from our father when I came back and I learned a part of the business aspect of it and it was the first time I kind of got a taste of what it would be like to not actually be an employee but actually kind of roll my own thing. And so from there, I was able to purchase a couple private schools and I've kind of been doing that to help, I guess fund my real estate They plans and projects that I'm working on.

Dustin Steffey: 5:02

Now, the best part of that whole thing that I took from from your whole introduction, was the fact that you had a plan from start to finish, right? There are so many athletes that I run into myself included, that we don't start with having a plan. Our plan is we're gonna go professional. And that's kind of the plan. But what happens in between what happens if you get hurt? What happens if professionals not in the cards, so it was really refreshing to hear kind of your your plan from start to now? Yeah.

Jaden Norvell: 5:41

You said a boys club, but like YMCA Boys and Girls Club,

Ira Ross Jr: 5:45

but no boys facility. So we call them group homes in California. But it's basically a living arrangement for students who are not for students. But for kids that are aware of the court who can't live at home with their parents. So we just provide home and that helped with the school instruction and all of those things. So we basically become a guardian and help, help kind of help get them back on track, help them reunite with their families or be successful people in the community. So we have three of those throughout the Bay Area.

Jaden Norvell: 6:13

Are they still up and running?

Ira Ross Jr: 6:15

No, my dad retired. Oh, man, I can't think of how far back but he retired. I ended up doing the school thing. So I left the Bay Area, moved back to Sacramento and started a non public school. And then I so when he retired, he left the group homes and I kept on with the schools.

Jaden Norvell: 6:32

It's awesome. awesomeness, group homes really help kids who need it. So you went from New Mexico to from Cali to Mexico? How was that transition? Was it? Was it weird for you? Is it your first time kind of away from Cali?

Ira Ross Jr: 6:48

Yeah, it was my first time away from Cali. And everyone asked me that question was a weird, so it was weird because of and if you've never been to Las Cruces, New Mexico, it can feel somewhat like the twilight zone at times. But I've met guys like Dwayne, so there was a lot of guys that were from either the Bay Area, Sacramento, Northern California, and like one of my buddies actually, that I went to high school with, came to New Mexico State to play defensive wine. So it was a large group of guys from California. So you kind of have that hometown connection even though you were in Las Cruces, New Mexico.

Dustin Steffey: 7:24

Mexico, we had a bowl game in Las Cruces actually it reminded me very much so of Reno so kind of a fun question for you Ira just because I love breaking the ice and stirring the pot a little bit. If you were to line up with Dwayne who would win that

Ira Ross Jr: 7:44

answer to that Dwayne plays always thinks about right

Dwayne Taylor: 7:53

yeah, yeah, look, I was got me. I was got me by about what four inches. Probably 50 pounds, even when we were playing maybe even 70 pounds, you know, even more so. I'd give it to Ira based on that

Dustin Steffey: 8:12

would be a fun board drill. I that was my favorite drill the board drill where you just line up and you give it your all? Yeah, yeah. Hey, no, another fun question. This will be fun for you guys. Who do you think would win against Jaden or I?

Dwayne Taylor: 8:31

Oh, Jaden has youth on his side. I don't know, man.

Dustin Steffey: 8:37

My knee might come apart before I can even get on.

Jaden Norvell: 8:46

So Dustin, we had we mentioned a little bit about are you still in the educational field at all?

Ira Ross Jr: 8:52

Yeah, I still have those two non public schools in Sacramento right now. Yeah. So

Jaden Norvell: 8:59

what makes them a non public like private schools? Are we talking like

Ira Ross Jr: 9:03

a private school that classified as non public school because I want to take students with special education disabilities. So everything that is in my program on like a regular private school is referred to me from a school district. And so I service students that can't maintain them regular school settings.

Jaden Norvell: 9:21

So awesome. Yep. What's some of the struggles that so you're you specialize just in in that we had a clinical IOC when I was in high school, but let's similar struggles you face with starting a school. I don't even know where to begin. I'm kind of the back end guy right. Think of all I don't even know where to begin. Steps wise and Dwayne it says something in his last interview about having a plan right, but maybe not knowing the whole plan. So how did you get started? And what are some of the struggles you face as a school owner?

Ira Ross Jr: 9:55

Oh, so this was I wish I would say I had a better plan. I wrote, I wrote a business plan, but without knowing anything that it took to actually run in school. So I kind of got lucky, the school that I bought, a buddy of mine that I played football with in high school was working there. And I actually was in Sacramento visiting. And I called him and he was like, Hey, you should stop by my job. So I stopped by. And I thought I could take kind of the philosophy we had at our group homes, as far as just really kind of giving the kids a different amount of love than I used to. And then just kind of just giving them that fresh start each day with a lot of love and patience. And so it's kind of different, because I didn't really have a strong academic background. So when I look back on, I always tell people, if I knew what I knew, now, I probably would not have bought a school because I didn't have any institutional knowledge to be successful. But I'm just one of those people that have faced adversity. And so as I started the school, we started with six kids took that one a 2014 was able to kind of go, I will say some of the hardest challenges are some of my kids come from very, very tough backgrounds. And I always tell people, you know, we get five or six hours a day to work with the kid. But the other 19 or 18 hours of the day, you know, they got to learn how to live life. And so it's really hard to change. Someone when you have so little time to impact them, they have some negative things, drawing them to the outside life. So that's what I say is one of the toughest things. But once you get them to buy into the program, and they really start to embrace their abilities, then it starts to all of those things start to kind of fall fall to the wayside. And they they're less distracted by those things on the outside.

Dustin Steffey: 11:36

Sounds as if it's not that different from what we're trying to accomplish with our podcast, right? So given education and visibility on self development, and helping others to find their own success, it sounds like, it's pretty similar in a sense that you're you're actually teaching those soft skills to these individuals to be able to help them to be successful in whatever their journey is correct?

Ira Ross Jr: 12:05

Yeah, yeah, definitely. And that's the goal. Remember, when I first started the school thing, I really, like I said, I just totally was not an academic person. So all of the things that I had to learn about academics and curriculum, and all of that was a struggle for me. But I had that, I guess, the it factor, if you will. And that business of really being able to connect with the kids and coming from a place of no judgment and an open platform for them to really be able to try to hone their craft and to show their abilities.

Jaden Norvell: 12:37

You think your background and football had an impact on how you deal with kids, it's kind of like a life as a coach, honestly, that's what it sounds like, to me, is almost like coaching but you know, from a more principal role ish.

Ira Ross Jr: 12:50

Yeah, I think a football impacts everything I do in life in different and different ways. And I think that the one of the things that if you play, especially at the collegiate level, you get exposed to so many different things. And I remember going to New Mexico State and running into guys that were from small town, eastern New Mexico, and just them having a different experience in life, and then being able to go out to some of their places and visit their homes, and kind of be able to be exposed to different things. And that's stuff that I always try to bring back to my kids are like those different experiences outside of our, our neighborhood or our town or our city. So just having that diverse group of friends in New Mexico State makes it easy to relate to people in all different likes, different walks of life, even now, today.

Jaden Norvell: 13:39

That's what we talked about with Dwayne you remember when we talked about how football impacts every day, honestly, and gives us that? You know, you said, you said I face adversity, and I think as athletes, we face adversity every Saturday, right? We're used to walking into a challenge that sometimes really seems impossible. And so I like that word to use to describe the challenges when you first started out

Dwayne Taylor: 14:04

just to kind of piggyback on everything that you just mentioned, and IRA, like, when you're on a athletic team in general, especially at the college level, and professional level, you know, you know, in the college level, the players on the team changes, basically on a semester to semester basis. But the goals never change, like you want to win a league title, you want to make it to a bowl game you want to possibly be ranked. And so you have to learn how to engage with all these different people. And a lot of times they might have a different path to execute a task that you do that you all do. But you've come to understand that there's more than one way to solve a problem in many cases. And it's, that's one of the things that's probably understated with like, you know, sports is that you have to work with so many different people from So many different walks of life, it kind of teaches you to be patient and kind of look at things through another person's lens. And I think that's, you know, that's another way of saying what I just mentioned, you know, that he was able to take from being a college athlete and implementing into how he runs his business on a day to day basis and engages with his students.

Dustin Steffey: 15:22

What would you guys say? Open Forum open question. Mentorship is important. We know this Ira Ira made it quite clear because he's mentoring these kids to be able to go into an environment ie the real world, and function, which there are some of us that have had plenty of mentorship and still struggle with functioning in today's society with all the changes that are going on. What would you guys say? Importance wise, if you stack rank it with all the other self development topics? Is mentorship. Where does that fall? Would that be like the number one? Would you say there's another number one and mentorships? In the top 10? Like, what are your guys's thoughts?

Dwayne Taylor: 16:12

Ira can have the first crack at that

Ira Ross Jr: 16:15

first ship is on the list. But it's it's and it's high. But I find when you think of mentorship, it really comes with the desire the person's desire, right? So I could have the recipe to make a great cake. But if you don't want to bake, then it doesn't really help you out. So I really find like, if I'm ranking mentor, ship, and like those things, it's like having a desire to go out and deal with every day. That way, whenever you find that mentor, it connects. Because I've met people at earlier parts of my career who tried to teach me things that I personally wasn't ready to learn yet, because I wasn't available to accept that mentorship. But now when I circled back, and I look at how, even for now, like I told the one like the difference between owning a school and leasing all of the businesses, versus owning the real estate and kind of changing from just being a business owner to being someone in real estate. Like when I was being told those things that apart at the earlier part of my career, and I was really just worried about cash flow, cash flow from the school, I didn't think about how much how much that I was missing out on because I wasn't available to take that mentorship. But now because I'm available, and I have the desire to learn that. I think that that mentorship now is like every, every time I get a chance, I'm listening, and I'm just like a cup waiting to be filled every time I get with those people. So I think that the desire to, to, to really go in that direction makes the mentorship kind of work better. So I would rank that internal desire is probably the number one ranking thanks for me, it was

Dustin Steffey: 17:51

something else that I took from our conversation thus far to being a part of a team. So like all of us are athletes on here, being a part of a team molded you to because within that team, you have a culture. And within that culture, it sets the tone in the stage to be able to accomplish the goals that you have set for it. So for like us as athletes, it would be in a season or in four years, if we wanted to take if we want to take this holistically, four years of playing five years if you're lucky. But at the end of the day, it all extrapolates to the same thing to me, because I'm still part of a team. I'm raising my daughter. So my daughter and I are team. For those of you that are married I was now I'm not. But when you're married, that's a team in itself. So learning how to be a part of a team, how to develop a culture, how to have the willingness to be able to bake that cake or IRA and learn and move forward. Is is all positive things in that's what I'm hearing from this. So to recap us up to now, what I've learned so far is mentorship is important. But there are elements that surround it that are even more important, which is the willingness to be able to learn the drive to be able to create that success and learn from what is being taught by the mentor to the mentee. And then the third thing that I've learned thus far in this is the grit that you have to be able to move forward because sometimes it isn't easy and you have to be able to overcome that adversity to be able to move forward. Correct?

Ira Ross Jr: 19:39

Yeah, yeah, totally, yep!

Jaden Norvell: 19:42

want to talk about it's good to be on a team but there's a i and when you talk about great okay, you said I got a buddy Ryan Broyles he played for Oklahoma. He's all Oklahoma's all time leading receiver. He's in real estate businesses. Well, is there some correlation During the real estate game in the game that athletes are doing this nowadays and then also great. What are some obstacles you had to overcome? Starting in the real estate business, which is kind of a, you know, you're you're on your own. Me and my dad looked into maybe buying something to say if you don't have a firm you're working for somebody, but you put bread kind of like Dustin with your job selling tobacco right? And they sell houses, they put their own money in their own pocket. What are some of the struggles you faced? And why did why did you? What do you get out of it that satisfying to

Ira Ross Jr: 20:36

real estate is a lot like sports because you win and you lose sometimes. And start now, me and my buddy, Leon Loya started out in Dayton, Ohio, and probably the craziest little reason to ever go out there. They had a program called Dayton reef and a buddy named Eric Higgins told us about it. And me and Liana like, oh, man, we need to get out of the rat race and start getting into real estate. So he listened to some podcasts, you read the free books, fuck your guru. Oh, wow. And you realize that you don't know Jack? In that competitive edge that makes all athletes successful, you know, we all have this edge like teddy bear in public, but on the field, a killer kind of edge to get the job done. And so after you take that loss, I mean, some people will go home and they don't try it again. For me it was that challenge and being able to say like, okay, I can win at this. So now, read another book, do a little bit more mental mental calisthenics, get yourself ready, get your body armor a little bit tougher and go out there and accomplish the task. So we started off looking at that date and reproject and never once actually executed a deal using that project. But after driving around and Dayton, Ohio, I saw a house that says $7,900.10 and included. And so I called. And I was thinking like there's got to be zeros missing. or something's going on the guys like, yeah, we're selling a house and the guy's paying $485 a month. So if you want to buy it, you can buy it from us, you know, and the guy's been there for seven years. He just doesn't want to move. So we're really looking for someone that'll keep him in, I go like, let me call you right back. So 70 945 That was simple math. And so after hitting a couple of roadblocks, we had our first little bit of success. And then it was just trying to, you know, again, how big can you go, you don't want to just be in a league championship, you want to win the state championship, or you want to take far as you can go. And so that's kind of where we're at now, kind of figured out what we can do figured out a few areas that we feel like we can win in and now really trying to, you know, take it to the next level and get out of the little leagues. And those areas to get

Jaden Norvell: 22:55

new height man, Sunday's out here, like I'll be editing. That's who knows, I'll be editing videos, and I'll get high.

Ira Ross Jr: 23:03

It's competitive. And if you're doing it, right, it's an adrenaline rush. And when you finish a project that you've been working on, it's really like you just, you know, you played a long season, you had some ups and downs, and you got to that big game, and you won. So that's that will be my correlation between real estate as forest.

Dustin Steffey: 23:22

That's awesome. Thank you. I brought this up with Dwayne, I'll bring it up with you IRA. It seems as if in in our society today, more and more areas in whether it be in sales, whether it be in service, whether it be in public, speaking whatever the case may be, they hire athletes. And I think it extrapolates to our willingness to be perfectionists our skill and perfecting the trade that we're in. And the grip that we have. Would you agree? What are your thoughts on that?

Ira Ross Jr: 24:01

Oh, yeah, definitely, I think when you especially when you get a high level athlete that's used to competing and training. Me and Dwayne, were talking the other day about having football practice at six in the morning, and what kind of mental conditioning that does to a person and so you get up in the morning at 6am. Some people are, you know, in REM they just really got to deep sleep, and you're in the middle of a workout before they even get breakfast. And so when you take that in and apply that to the real world and you you get out what that mindset that you can go out and conquer things first thing in the morning. It gives you an advantage against people who haven't had that kind of day to day grind or haven't developed those skills.

Dustin Steffey: 24:48

Really Miss actually being able to mentally have the mental fortitude to wake up earlier than I already do. To be able to go and work out because I liked working out in the morning because it set the tone for my day for the rest of the day, I felt good the whole day because I got that accomplished

Jaden Norvell: 25:09

used to work if we're gonna like, finally every day

Dustin Steffey: 25:13

until Jaden stayed at my house, and I've been lazy ever since. That changes,

Ira Ross Jr: 25:21

changes you So, but that is a you know what it's like, though. And so even though you don't know, know it, now you know what it's like to tap into it. And I think that sports also gives you this innate ability to see it in other people. And that's what also gives us an advantage in business. Sometimes, even when a person is not an athlete, you can still see when they have that edge, and how they are attacking whatever that problem is, and not just a person that just takes takes the L and keeps moving.

Dustin Steffey: 25:48

So segwaying into an important topic that you did bring up visualization, I think that's key to success. athletes use it all the time to tap into what they want to do, whether it be in a football game, for example. So we'll use football since we all have played here. I visualize the night before, who I'm going to tackle how I'm going to tackle which gap I'm going to shoot, how I'm going to get to that when to be successful. Have you taking that a step further and used visualization within your career now, so whether it be with your real estate, or the schools or mentor now there's

Ira Ross Jr: 26:27

Yeah, more so with this golden real estate, I think I think real estate is a little bit more concrete. Once you get the recipe, you just kind of continue to kind of follow that and build on it. But with the schools, I remember having when I first started it was new dimension Learning Academy. And it was maxed out at 24 kids. And it was the smallest school so we could only take the very toughest kids in the area. We got all of the rejects from schools that were like my, in our program. And then we had this goal, like, one day, I'm gonna have the biggest public school and this is what its gonna look like. And this is this is the path I was on. So that's how I ended up where I am now I was chasing that vision of like, how do you become the biggest nonpublic school in the area and not just a school that warehouse kids that's actually kicking out kids that are being successful long term and life. And so I can see from where I was at, at new dimension, that there was a bigger picture out there to kind of go after and like I was saying, when I started I was 25. And I had little experience in business and or in education. And I walked into this room with a group of 40 and older people that had this little fraternity that they were already and I had to crack into that to become successful. But just looking at the go, I see that I saw that I could compete with them, because I knew they didn't have the advantage I have as far as the connecting with the kids. And I was able to do that at a high level really early. So it gave me a chance to kind of build those programs. But I definitely had a vision for that the real estate has been kind of our, it's like a sub we all play sports because we wanted that big contract, and that freedom to travel and live life. And so real estate is that new vessel for me to have that passive income, that boat if you wanted that weekend in Bora Bora, if you decide to go and all of those things were I say now like the schools or more, it's my passion. It wasn't my passion when I bought it, I bought it to own a business and to make money and then I fell in love with working with the kids and that that development piece so but as far as the vision for real estate, it was not really a vision, it was kind of a means to an end like that free time that I want. I see that being how I get to that place.

Dustin Steffey: 28:48

Your thoughts on on a on vision Dwayne.

Dwayne Taylor: 28:53

You know, I kind of I kind of tied my vision like into like goals, and I were kind of touched on something. He said he had listed that he wanted to have the largest non public school in the area. And I think like there that's like a very deliberate vision. Like he took like a, like a concept and memorialize it on like paper or wherever. So he can see it every day to help reinforce his vision. So I kind of do something like that as well. Like I'll have like all my goals written down. I believe I mentioned this last week like Jaden said, he has a whiteboard, like a whiteboard that's on an easel. I have like a couple a tablet, with all my goals written out and to bring those to life. I have like a 24 by 36 piece of white construction paper, and I take photos of all the goals. I'll find them in newspapers, magazines, I'll print pictures offline, and I'll make like a collage of all the goals I want. So I'll look at the goals I have on paper, and then I'll see them brought to life on my whiteboard. kind of reinforce the vision I have in my mind to help me work towards those. And so that's kind of how I create the vision for my goals. And I think, you know, when we're talking visions, you know, everybody kind of has their own way of following them. And that's kind of how I work. And, you know, it seemed to be, it seemed to work well, for me, and I really, I really, like, started doing this, probably, man maybe 15 years ago, was when I first remember, you know, I made like, a vision board for me, to help me, you know, follow the dreams that I had. And to really make sure that I'm doing all I can to proactively keep them alive, and, you know, focus on them on a day to day basis, some days more than others, but I do have, you know, to have that ability to do so. And I mean, I have some, I have some of these, that's, that's the damn iPhone watch. But I have, I have like, some of my old boards from, like, 10 years ago, you know, and I could see, like, the see what the things that I was pursuing, like, I wanted to buy, I wanted to buy property, I wanted to get a new car, you know, I wanted to, you know, gain these credentials, these skills, you know, and these goals I have for myself, personally and professionally. And so, you know, it's really a good feeling to look back and see that you have accomplished some of that, you know, and I think with some of the some of the work we do, like, it's challenging, you know, and I know, as athletes, we're always looking for a way to motivate ourselves, you know, in business, we're looking for ways to motivate ourselves to take that next step, and transcend who we are. And these are, this is one of the ways to do it. Because, like I said, he walked into a situation where he was 25 years old, going into a room with people 40 And up who had probably 20 years of experience, in some cases, they had as much experience as he's been alive, right. So you've got to find a way to go in there and really put your best foot forward, so to speak. And one of the ways we have to do it is having a large vision of who we are, and we're almost like, like, like, delusional in a way, you know, like, we can get things done that you wouldn't think we'd be able to, based on the skills we have, and the experiences, but um, you know, we often have a larger vision for ourselves. And one of the ways we reinforce it is by, you know, doing, following the path that I described with my vision board and writing down goals. And, you know, I mean, that's, that's kind of, that's how I support my vision that I have, from a from a theoretical perspective, and then memorializing it and bring it to life on paper.

Ira Ross Jr: 32:39

I think something I've been working on, and like when I'm talking to people that are asking me about investments and stuff that I'm doing right now, it's really believing and understanding that it's limitless. And so the only thing that's causing us to have limits is either fear, or that we don't want to put the work in and it takes to be successful. And so people always say like, oh, you ask them that question. Like, why aren't you doing this, and it's always a financial constriction, or I don't have the time or this but once you just believe that whatever you have desire for you could it could be limitless. The approach changes and you start having so much more success. I think myself now I'm thinking of deals that I couldn't even imagine even sitting in a room and working on a pitch deck for. And now I'm thinking like, Man, this deal is to sleep like I should be asking for more are doing more because I understand now that the limit to where it can go with so much greater than I expect and even then I undershoot, because I still have this little bit of fear that maybe I'm still going too far. So it's like the wind even said, like, it's almost being delusional, but really believing that the things that are destined for you, there, your success can be limitless. And just going for it just believing believing that it will be some I will tell everybody that I tell them that is in real estate, our finances aren't work, but anything that you do, if you put your mind to it, and you understand that it's limitless, how far you can take, you can be great at it.

Dustin Steffey: 34:04

Thank you Ira, Dwayne?

Dwayne Taylor: 34:07

Me Yeah, I think I think I made some really good points, I think, you know, one of the things to take away from this is that, you know, you don't really have to be great to get started, but you got to be you have to be you have to get started in order to be great. And so with that, I think having a having a really large vision for yourself and where you want to go, whether it's in real estate, whether it's in your professional career, whether it's in your relationship, I think you set the goal really high, and then you shoot for it. And if you don't make it there, you will still be further along than you were had you not pursued it right. So I mean, I think that's that's that's really the what I've taken away from this conversation. You know, you don't have to, you're not going to know everything right. Sometimes we're going to go in and have to learn through the journey. And you know, to stay the course even when it gets difficult because it will it will ease up As you become more and more acquainted with whatever you're doing, because the first time is never going to be the best time, but as you continue to focus on it and stay consistent and you know, seek out ways to develop yourself, you can you can get to where you want to go.

Dustin Steffey: 35:15

Absolutely thank you! Ira! If our listeners want to get a hold of you, how can they go about doing that?

Ira Ross Jr: 35:23

I will say that reach out to me on LinkedIn, Ira G. Ross Jr. or reach out to me via email at I Ross AI and then Ross, RL SS, O locks, IG and S O L O C ksig.com. And that's Oh, lots Investment Group. That's our real estate business that we're running now. And so we're focused focusing on storage facilities and multifamily projects, getting a little bit of development, really kind of getting into that Airbnb rental space. And we also have a trucking component. So if you reach out to me, there, I can give you all information about what we got going on.

Dustin Steffey: 36:05

Awesome. And then for Dwayne will link his information as well. We already have that. Both of you. Thank you. Thank you very much. I think there were a lot of key things to take away from this. I know I learned a lot from this. I want to close it off by letting our listeners know if you want to find out more information, please go to our website at WWW dot chopping with feiyr.com. That website houses our videos or podcasts download on your favorite platform, our Patreon where we can donate to Boys and Girls Club and cystic fibrosis. Jaden Do you want to talk about cystic fibrosis?

Jaden Norvell: 36:47

Yes, cystic fibrosis is a lung disease that affects under 20,000 people a year you guys have already raised over $1,000 in less than four months. Super happy super grateful you guys can keep donating showing love@cff.org backslash donate like gotcha guys there's a good Will Smith video and not the one of them slapping Chris Rock where he talks about man manifesting his goals. He was on one of these talk shows so if you guys Google YouTube Will Smith talks about manifesting his goals How's a great house

Dustin Steffey: 37:24

crazy?

Jaden Norvell: 37:26

Suck the crap out of something

Dwayne Taylor: 37:31

Yeah, he sure did.

Jaden Norvell: 37:33

He he didn't manifest that.

Dustin Steffey: 37:38

Just happened

Dwayne Taylor: 37:41

that was spontaneous right there. He

Jaden Norvell: 37:42

said he said that before he said I will walk up ahead of Elvis sit back down. This is wait.

Dustin Steffey: 37:51

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