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July 3, 2022

Discussing Roe V Wade and the Mental Health Impact Feat: Alison Tomei

Discussing Roe V Wade and the Mental Health Impact Feat: Alison Tomei

These are some crazy times and we wanted to start a discussion based off the recent government decision overturning Roe V Wade. We bring on Alison to discuss her feelings along with the mental health impact this decision has caused. Make sure to drop us some comments and let us know how we are doing. Also please click the link below as voting is live for the people's choice awards. Choppin with fire is going for the nomination in the best podcast category and best business podcast category.

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Dustin Steffey:

Hello Chop Nation Dustin Steffey here, Jayden and I are both excited in one to share some big news with you all. As of right now, voting is open for the People's Choice Awards and chopping with fire is up for nominations for Best Overall business podcast, and Best Overall podcasts. If you all could please help us out and go to www dot pod cast awards.com. That's www.podcastawards.com. We will also conveniently have that link in our episode descriptions for the month of July for each of you to be able to click on for easier access to register. Again, Jaden, and I can't thank you all enough for supporting our show and allowing us to continue to bring you guys quality content. So if you guys could please help us out as we go down the journey to try to get a People's Choice Award. Please go ahead and go to that website and register today.

Jaden Norvell:

This is the best stop for entrepreneurship and self development talk hosted by the doctor himself Dr. Dustin Steffey co hosted by entrepreneur, and sports talk host Jayden rush, Norville, this is chocolate. Joined by Alison from Sacred arts today, perfect,

Dustin Steffey:

I love the elevator pitches of everyone. Short and sweet. Now, I, I I'm going to reel us in because today's topic is it's gonna it's going to be impactful, it's going to hit the buckets of mental health, the buckets of government the buckets of a lot of things and, and it's gonna we're gonna be as sensitive as we can to it obviously, like there's a lot of people that have a lot of different opinions. And honestly, I've always been one that says I don't care about what others think. But this is one that is something that needs to be talked about needs to be heard a little bit needs to be unpackage it is our job Jaden and I and our podcast job to talk about things that are hard, and to be able to bring them to light and help people understand and unpackage it and that's what we're gonna do today, there was a decision made by our government to overturn Roe vs. Wade. And that is huge. So for those of you that live on an island and don't know what that is, or what's going on that it pretty much took away. Our female classes rights on being pro choice or pro life, it made it mandatory where they don't have a decision to make anymore. So their decision is null and void, essentially. And I mean, I'm trying to explain this as sensitively as possible because if I were to explain this, in my own words, that's my own bias. And it is not my job to bring my bias and it is my job to unpackage this with all of us together and really talk about it and talk about the feelings and talk about why where we had from here and what we should do. My first question coming out the gate is I mean, right when you heard about that, Allison, what were your thoughts and feelings? What went through your head when you heard that? Because that's an insane decision right there. Yeah.

Alison Tomei:

What was my first reaction? Was it literally a reaction? Right? It was it was literally the gut pit of my stomach followed probably really, really closely by like a rash of fear. But I think ultimately, it is a huge message and opportunity for each one of us to check ourselves. This is a hello, how much more do we have to do to wake you up? Right, like massive fires and floods are and as a woman, and particularly, it's a calling to rise still even more, I think that we're in a healing of feminine as well. There's a lot of attention put on toxic masculinity and, and masculine masculine is out is out of sync and blah, blah. I think what is also being asked of us and what we as women have to take responsibility for even more now is that we have some healing to do as well. And so as much as it hurt and, and is intense. I think it's also an opportunity for us to come even more into the true aspects and what that really means and and so You're dealing Yeah, that is like I am calling back my power. Now,

Dustin Steffey:

do you think that the decision that was made was made because of certain aspects within our nation? So for example, one aspect being there's a decent amount of women, they're having kids with different men and living off of the system? And do you think that the government made this decision kind of solely based not solely based off of it, but because that is one issue that we're having as a country as well, too.

Alison Tomei:

So it's so there's more than one right? It takes two to tango here. There's, there's different aspects. But yeah, of course, of course, then we can go back historic points during history, where it's the same thing we don't I don't want to say we because clearly it's not you and I create circumstances, right, to cause tragedies and dysfunctionality so that it can be benefited from

Jaden Norvell:

this has been a top that's been going on for a while back when I was 2014. I was in Catholic school, and we had a lady come to our, to our school, from pro life and talk about it in the chapel. This has been something that's been going on for many years, and is always under the topic of cultural impact. Just this month, we have a new Adam Sandler movie released, which was very good. And the reason why the main character went to jail was because he found out that the husband was like, hey, if we take this kid, we can have welfare benefits. So he got mad and went over it and, and beat him up. And so this is something that's always been talked about. So it's a hard topic to kind of pick a side on really, to understand because as men, we're not women. But as, as God. You know, if you believe in God, you don't if you whatever your morality is, nobody wants to kill babies. I don't think that's right, right.

Dustin Steffey:

So my stance is the same. As you Jaden, I am not a female, I've always been in my mind, and in my heart, and in my being, I've always strived to go towards equality for everything, we aren't back in the 1800s anymore, where the woman is a slave to the man or I feel like we all have a choice or should, let me rephrase that we all should have a choice to make a choice in our own life, to affect our own outcomes. And then if the outcome is negative, we suffer the negative consequence. If the outcome is positive, we have the positive consequence. That's how I was raised. That's how like, I feel that's should be, but that's not how it is right now, my feeling of this whole entire thing is we're negating a choice. That should be very much a my body my choice choice for females.

Jaden Norvell:

This is also for men too. I don't want to leave that out. Because sometimes men choose to have abortions in a relationship. And now,

Alison Tomei:

yeah, this is this isn't a one issue. But what it is, whether whatever side, because it's no longer about the sides, you know, it's like what you're saying Jaden. Yes, the most important thing here is for us to remember that no one wants to, it goes against who we are as humans to want to kill our own. And the more important thing and where we might want to put our energy instead, let's begin to unpack and look at what got us to this place where women are having to make these decisions, what is broken in the fabric of us as humans, male and female, that makes us part of our reality. Now, we can't suddenly go Okay, now we're going to change the rules. The fact is, we have to look at what the cause what our root issues are. That got us to a place to live in a world where these decisions have to be made by a woman by a man by families, and what has what what can we heal behind that. So that so this extreme shocking thing that feels so much like a move backwards, is also an opportunity to look at how we can be better human beings, what is broken in our, in what we're doing here, they even got to this point.

Dustin Steffey:

So I'm gonna, the I'm gonna politely say there was one comment that you brought up, that I'm going to agree with you with, which is we can't change the decisions that have been made. I very much so think we can I think we have to educate ourselves better because I think one of the issues we have as a society right now is we're not as educated as like say my not my opinion My parents, parents, when it came to making the right decisions for like voting for things, understanding what's going on, we're not, we're not in tune with that. And so we're kind of robotic, read in a different way. In my mind,

Jaden Norvell:

we're in the age of technology.

Alison Tomei:

disconnection,

Jaden Norvell:

your record point is online. But I want to kind of play devil's advocate here, what's some of the good things? Because the decision has been made, what are some of the positive things that this decision was made to affect,

Alison Tomei:

the only thing that can come a bit positive, unfortunately, isn't going to be seen right away? You know, it the the, the good that can come of it, it's like this, you know, it's not about what happens to you in your life, and the things that you go through? It's about, what do you do with it?

Jaden Norvell:

What do you think doesn't really think some of the good

Dustin Steffey:

it's so hard, I'm heated about it just for the sheer fact of who I am as a person, I, I feel like I align with what Allison said, anything that's positive, we probably won't see for a little bit. But if I could pull one positive from this from this situation, and that's if the government actually runs it in the way that I think they should, is, it's going to create responsibility and responsible choices, or you know what, I'm not gonna say that it's definitely going to happen. But I'm gonna say, the hope is, is that with what just happened and the decision that was made, it's going to create a society of people that responsibly talk about when and if they want to have a child. So that way, we're controlling kind of, when we're having kids, instead of just randomly going out and having sex and oopsie, all of a sudden, we're having a child, and that child isn't being taken care of by both a mom and a dad

Jaden Norvell:

does do a bunch for our adoptive system, or child protective services, company agencies. Because with the more kids being born, there's more kids put into these adoption, and they're not good right now. They don't have proper funding. It takes forever. It's like, no, but like he's like, but like you say, like you said, Exactly. Like you said, some things have to crumble, right. So the more kids get put in, oh, crap, here, it goes down. And it's gonna crumble. But that's good, because now we can rebuild it into what it needs to be. Because like you said, to build anything, stuff has to fall apart first.

Alison Tomei:

And we're around children, and there needs that we have blindly been able to believe that we have political systems in place government systems in place, that are going to provide that need. I think that unfortunately, the very people who who put in, took away this choice, right, that that wanted the life before it's born, aren't giving that same amount of concern for a life after it's born. And it's going to have to start to happen more and more in the communities themselves, we are going to have to start doing it because I that's the part that just makes me mad is how can the life before it's formed be so important? And look at all of these lives that now are born after? Where are they when those lives need help? How are how are we supporting? You know, so that was what was so frustrating to me about. They're not they're not helping young people go to school who were born in whatever unfortunate circumstances, they were, you know, on and on, which I'm sure a lot of people are angry about that. That's part of what this impassioned feeling comes from, you know, because I was a single mom, I know what it was. I know what it was

Dustin Steffey:

rather. So how do you think I feel? Yeah,

Alison Tomei:

yeah. I mean, I, I did I, I am no, I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm just saying it's frustrating. So so the system that needs to fall is the broken system that's in place. It's doesn't work clearly what's gotten this far for us to know that that is not working. You know, how many times are we going to continue to fix the problem with the very thing that caused it? You know,

Dustin Steffey:

so I want to I want to take a step back for a second because we've unpackaged so much already. And I just want to I want to recap a few key things. This all ties to mental health. Okay. We're not just talking about what the government just passed and Roe vs. Wade we're tying in with mental health because it does impact summarize, we've already discussed time have feelings with respect to what was passed, we've discussed kind of our, our personal or personal feelings with why we've had it this way. We've also discussed the fact of responsible choices and kind of where everything is heading. And we've also slightly discussed the kind of impact and what we might see. But we have not seen yet. Because this is such a new decision. It's only been a week, week and a half,

Alison Tomei:

you know, and I'll jump into and say that since we are talking about more than just this decision that was made on the flip of that, like you covered, what it does bring about and wake up to us is, how are we taking care of our young people, you know, that's my jam. That's where I come in. And that is why I think there is such a massive rebirth around creativity and creative thinking, and hitting and letting our young people reconnect with an emotional intelligence. You know, we hear that that pendulum has swung so far with technology, that it's got to swing back. Now, hopefully, what will happen is the system it will ripple, right? That's where my hope has to come from my hope, as a woman, my hope has to come from nothing happens without a reason.

Jaden Norvell:

I guess when I look at it, it's like, Okay, it's good. That people have kids, right? It's good. And even if they don't want them to the venom comes from the snake, like she said, so everything happens for a reason. So you are meant to have this child. And as much as we don't like technology, it's evolved to a point to where we can negate that. And going against someone's constitutional rights is not in the question when it comes to birth. It's nowhere in the constitution. So the system works, how the system works, print to find lines and take that away. So for me, it's like, it's good, because like, Dustin wants to teach his people responsibility. And like, you want to help people heal themselves, because everything happens for a reason. And so that's my thinking as to why they did it. It was all with 100 different legal things I have no idea about, but that's where I think our system is broken is that we don't have that, even though they come out or hey, this is the ruling, you know, and I don't know, because I'm not in tune with it. But the hearings, were live on television anywhere, I don't think you could go and find out the information, you know, like, it's, it's one thing to make a decision, I get it. But for something as big, I really feel like government needs to open up as much as they can to the general public populace, because without information, we're left sitting here like is this the right thing is it's not the right thing. And then you have people feel like they have their rights stripped from them. How the

Dustin Steffey:

hell can the government overturn Roe vs. Wade without having more people involved in the process of being heard? For it being like, like you said, Jaden, and like you understand Allison, this was not televised. This was like a hush hush thing. Like we knew something was happening. We didn't know the extent of it. And I think if we knew the extent of it, I'd like to think that the decision

Jaden Norvell:

I mean, that goes back to who we elect to represent us as people who says, Who says yes, meetings, that's who you elect to do that. But that's where the problem is, is, oh, we've elected this person. But now we don't get to see what this person is doing.

Dustin Steffey:

I think people are confused, though. And this goes back to what we discussed about 20 minutes ago, where the Jenner our current generation now, because the baby boomers are starting to slowly like disappear, right? Because they're getting old and they're, they're dying, okay? The generation that we have now is not as political, educated or in tune with government to be able to make these big decisions because we focus more on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram, everybody's receiving information so differently now that like, I don't think we're as in tune as we were 5060 years ago, with things that were huge, you know,

Jaden Norvell:

and that's the government uses that to their advantage. And people in the younger generations believe it's bullshit. Either that or they've taken this stance based off right external environment, so they're so far to that stance that

Dustin Steffey:

anything Well, yeah, automatically It goes towards I don't I don't want us to dive into the politics of this, okay, because we can no, we're not

Alison Tomei:

gonna go right. What's done in the dark will come to the light. So well. And I think what this also does is like, yes, it's like they don't know as much as they did six years ago, but also what they did six years ago was still bullshit then to fed to the people through some sort of, you know, what shows in filth HD years

Dustin Steffey:

ago, was ripples in the pond. Now it's a tsunami. Now, yes, eyeballs have turned on your massive herd. And now, you know, the generation suffer.

Alison Tomei:

This is this is just that the veils are being pulled back on my intuition, just my intuition says that. This is all we are at a this has been like we said, brewing brewing, this has been under the surface and happening for quite some time, it could be that by the time your honor, is in her 20s, that things may look entirely different than they do. Now. If it rolls as fastly as quickly as you know, I think that might want in the right direction, right? Because I think so many huge dramatic things have to happen. Because it is that final wake up call. Whatever level you want to take that so it's like they're more intense and more intense and more intense in in regard to mental health and what's happened, you know, in our political system, and I have had a major blow, I've lost my mother in the last just over two weeks and feeling and I'm an empath, who feels everything anyway. And it's that interesting combination of really intense feeling as far as grief and sadness and all of it. But also it somehow is twisted in with this, like, I don't want to call it excitement. I don't want to call it hopefulness. But it's like this, like, knowing of something really good, right? on the precipice of like, all in all, at the same time in one package, like how can I be sad and super, you know, excited and looking forward to the future all at the same time. But that's just the reality of how how this is, and mental health is a huge issue. For me, it always has been because I'm someone who is always I think each and every one of us, in any choice of ways, has dealt with mental health issues at one point or another in our lives, because that is the human story. That is that is part of it is an aspect of what we are here to experience and in so doing that our messengers, our emotions, but we live in a place in in a community that says don't be too emotional, don't feel that too much to teaches us to avoid emotions, but it is within the emotions if channeled correctly, and if understood correctly, that are your guides, you know, that are your that are meant for you to feel things. So how do we connect with those emotions, through creative acts, and through many other ways, but through creative acts is a big part of it, you know, through the imagination, meditation and imagination and using the imagination and connecting through the heart to something which is what arts and things that that the things that you do that make you lose time, whatever your your bliss is, whether it's running or dancing, or whatever the thing is, those are that's there, we're meant to be in that space. And then so instead, we're reaching out to technology, and we're reaching out to everything else to fill what innately is in that space, what what innately we have a remembering of that that's who we are that, right, but we haven't lived in a culture that encourages that necessarily. So there's a lot of reaching for something outside of an outside of an outside of and, and when we can begin to kind of change our thinking around some of this. And not even actually get out of the thinking mind and get into the right brain intuitive mind through things like painting, meditation, whatever the thing is, that can help us do that. Sometimes we're over in the thinking too much once about this journey. You know, it's about this and this and so bringing that in balance so

Dustin Steffey:

And speaking of the painting that you were bringing up, I know that my daughter, my daughter loves this. And I know you really enjoy it. Can you tell our listeners how they can kind of get a hold of you how they can connect Take a look at some of your paintings because that is a part of your business and really help support you, please.

Alison Tomei:

Your daughter was so dope she was just automatically like she was in with me. She was just went right to that place. Yeah, so I'm an intuitive painter and I am I have on Instagram and Facebook under sacred arts studio. But you guys will get all that stuff. And then I do live painting. So part of for me, doing live painting is just that it's like, it's like jamming with other musicians. And it's an opportunity to just respond and it puts me into that space. So I do a lot of different events. I've got one coming up tomorrow night at Bluebird.

Dustin Steffey:

Alright, so for all of our local Reno folks go support Allison at Bluebird. Yeah.

Alison Tomei:

And in fact, that was the same I met you at. At no size event too, right? Wasn't that the one? Yeah.

Dustin Steffey:

Our first live event? Yeah, yep.

Alison Tomei:

So and then I have a show at West Street Market all of July. So I've got a few pieces. In fact, the piece I created that night with your daughter, I've got that I'll be I'll have that up at West for July, and then I'm going to be actually creative. Live painting in Placerville, a spot called Green Room Social Club. Okay. Yeah, it's a great music venue. So I'll be there with a band called deer head fridge. They're really great. Um, and then Yeah, as far as my work, whether it's in the healing arts, I'm going to be working at a location here in Reno solo spa. So looking forward to being able to get back into my coaching work and my healing sessions. And there so they can find all of that on my social media on tomorrow night at the Bluebird, and I'll have work up at West Street Market.

Dustin Steffey:

And I'll recap that all of Alison's information will be on our website, www dot choppin. With feiyr.com. Under this episode, we'll have a link to her profile, her guest profile, and it'll have all her social media and her business and stuff in her profile. If y'all want to get a hold of her, you definitely can reach out. Also Jaden, and I want to take this opportunity to say we need our listeners, we need our chop nation now more than ever, for the month of July, we have a 30 day window right now, where the People's Choice Awards voting is live. And so it is important. If we've ever asked our listeners for anything, it is important to please click on the link that will be provided in the episode details and go give us a shout out and a vote for the People's Choice Awards. We like bringing in this quality content to you all we like doing what we do and we'd like to be recognized for it for sponsorship opportunities and other opportunities. And so if you guys think we are worthy of the award, please please head over to that link and give chopping wood fire your vote. So that way we can start competing with these global podcasts. And then I'm going to open the floor to Jaden to talk about the CF foundation and our philanthropy and we'll be closing out.

Jaden Norvell:

Awesome. Thank you again. Allison. I appreciate it. You guys know the deal with CF cystic fibrosis as terminal lung disease affects all age groups but it's especially terminal for the elderly and the young makes it hard to breathe it creates mucus in your lungs, the lung function decreases in slowly suffocate just putting in just saying out of this. So you guys can donate@cff.org backslash donate you guys already raised over $1,000 It's amazing. And please like we said help us out with this People's Choice in July. It'd be great to go down to LA to go to his awards and get some help behind this to spin keep making these episodes for you guys with more consistency and have bigger and better guests on as you guys grow with we do but thanks again, Alison. And if you guys are in Reno, please check out bluebird it's super fun. Meet us in the band there. Have a couple of drinks for lax. Check out some art.

Alison Tomei:

Yeah, hey, the sun on fire team.

Jaden Norvell:

Yeah, comment what you guys think about this Roe vs. Wade thing too. We'd love to hear from you guys for the discussion.

Dustin Steffey:

Absolutely. Again, I want to thank you, Alison, for coming on and joining us and joining the Trump family. And we are looking forward to seeing how everybody reacts send comments to this episode. Again, don't forget, go to the Podcast Awards website in the episode description and vote for us for nomination of best podcast and best business podcasts for the People's Choice Awards. Thank you all

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Alison Tomei

Spiritual Practitioner and Creativity Coach and Intuitive Artist

Alison Tomei is an intuitive artist, Certified Creatively Fit Coach, and Spiritual Practitioner. She received her Spiritual Life Coaching certification through Emerson Theological Association in 2018. Her background in healing arts includes 20 years experience as a massage therapist and energy healer as well as shamanic practitioner training. Alison is a natural teacher and her empathic nature and sensitivity make her an effective coach and therapist. She believes that creativity is a powerful tool for personal evolution as well as healing trauma and assisting in times of transition. Alison developed a creative life coaching program combining the power of art making with life coaching for emotional wellness, strengthening intuition, expansion of possibility thinking and to discover our unique gifts and potential for a purposeful life. Her paintings are created intuitively and hold the medicine of the intention she brings to the canvas, working each piece as a ritual and embedding it with sacred symbols, written prayer and the messages of her spiritual guides. The archetypes and mythologies of the femine psyche are common themes in her work. In addition to painting, other mediums include collage and mixed media.