Getting it Done Feat Rocco Carriero

Dustin Steffey: 0:00

Welcome to another week of chopping with fire I'm excited to have guest expert Rocco Corriero on he is the author of three chords the three chords approach to life and wealth management for business owners. There's a lot of golden nuggets for this episode. So strap up your boot laces and let's chop it up Welcome to your top rated global podcast that is your one stop shop specializing in entrepreneurship, self development, smart investment decisions and other relevant topics that add value. This podcast is hosted by owner, Dr and content creator Dustin Steffey we are blessed to have accolades that include a 2022 nomination by the People's Podcast Awards in the category of business, which is voted on by the people all of you money donated to two amazing causes cystic fibrosis and the Boys and Girls Club. Lastly, global recognition of being a top 50 podcast in four countries. Without further ado, let's chop it up. I have the author of the book three courts. Rocco terreiro on with me as well. Rocco, how are you?

Rocco Corriero: 2:03

I'm doing terrific. How are you doing today? Just a Dustin.

Dustin Steffey: 2:07

I'm doing well. It's a it's about 85 degrees and hot but I'm inside there's an AC so I'm okay.

Rocco Corriero: 2:15

Not to have AC in Reno.

Dustin Steffey: 2:17

Gotta have AC in general. I mean, I would die. I like my house at like 68 You know, so I'm like a polar bear.

Rocco Corriero: 2:25

Hey, that's literally cool. Yeah,

Dustin Steffey: 2:28

literally pun intended. Yeah. But that being said, Rocco, let's let's just dive in. i You're you're an interesting person. You have a lot of accolades behind you. There's a lot of intellect behind you. I kind of want my listeners to kind of understand who's on with me. So let's just dive into your story.

Rocco Corriero: 2:46

Yeah, sure. So, basically grew up in a midsize town on Long Island, New York, botanical Patchogue, my parents immigrated to the United States in 1962, my dad was a tailor, opened, went to work for a tailor in our town, then eventually opened up his own tailor shop. Learned the world of business and entrepreneur, entrepreneurship from spending a lot of time at the tailor shop. Just seeing how business is being done. You know, grew up with the large Italian American family surrounding surrounding us. Wasn't a great student in high school, but did love business went off to college, college. When I was at the age of 19, College, threw me out, kick kicked me out of school. And for just not focusing on my grades, they focused on throwing parties and making money. And the school didn't really like that was a big disappointment to my parents at that point, came back with a vengeance and got back into school, finish school, got my MBA in banking, finance, ended up in the world of financial services. And working with highly successful business owners, CEOs and entrepreneurs, managing close to a billion dollars of assets and then decided to write the book three chords approach to life and wealth management for business owners. And that's what brought me here on the podcast today.

Dustin Steffey: 4:30

Lot to unpackage from that first and foremost, I have a fellow Italian on so I appreciate that. I also appreciate the fact of the tailor portion I think a lot and maybe it's the Italian in me I like I like a lot of those tailor jobs because if you look at history in the past, most tailors were well respected back in the day right because it it it was more for like the mobs and stuff like that right? You were tailoring for them. For big people, and so you not only learn the business side, but you also learn a lot more than that, in my opinion, I don't know if that happened within your family, but in history, from what I studied, that that's kind of what I learned with some of the tailors back in the day. I also can relate with you in the party and in school my first semester, and most people don't know this about me, unless they were partying with me, I got a 1.3. In my first semester, for my GPA, which is very abnormal of me, I am highly intelligent, and I do pride myself in graduating with high distinction. But partying was more important than school, for my first semester anyway, because I was so good in high school, I didn't experience any of that. So put me out on my own island, and I experienced it, and then some, and then the butchering before would have been great. Oh, we, I think we would have thrown the best parties. You know. The difference for me, is my my parents also got after me. And so my next semester, I pulled a three, eight, because I was on academic probation. And they were threatening to kick me out of school. And so I didn't want that. I also was going to lose all my scholarships, and my sports and athletic scholarships as well, too. So you can't play a sport, when you don't put in the work for school. So I learned fast.

Rocco Corriero: 6:35

You know, sometimes those are the bet, you know, those hard times those hard slaps in the face, it's sometimes what people need, it certainly was a turning point for me at the age of 19. For sure.

Dustin Steffey: 6:44

The only accolade I don't have yet with you right now is I still have not published my book, but I'm trying and getting there.

Rocco Corriero: 6:54

It's hard, it took me seven years to write the book shouldn't have taken seven years, but it did. And it's one of those things where you just you just got to kind of focus and, you know, get up at 345 in the morning, and you know, and just just kind of, you know, work at it and you can't do it all once you got to work, get a break it out the pieces. But once it's done, it's and you know, the other thing is, it's never going to be absolutely, totally perfect. So if you wait for that, it's never gonna get done. So do the best job that you can get it printed. And then you can always go back and revisit it. I'm in the process now of doing the three courts approach to life and wealth management revisited. Because it you know that that's, that should come out, you know, some later this year or something.

Dustin Steffey: 7:37

Yeah, that it's like my dissertation in my PhD. I, gosh, I restarted that thing, like 30 or 40 times before I finally got a draft that I really liked.

Rocco Corriero: 7:50

Yeah, that's it takes time. But you'll you'll get it done. I'm working on two other books now and one is around recipes for retirements can have a time recipes in it, you're probably going to enjoy it.

Dustin Steffey: 8:04

I think so I think that'll be one that I really will thoroughly enjoy. I would think. Yeah, you got accolades back and you behind your book, too, from what I saw you not only how to interview surrounded around it, and I'm not counting like this podcast right now. Our other podcasts, you've had bigger interviews like with NBC, right? Are it was Yeah, yeah, NBC, you have? It's a best selling book, New York Times best seller, correct.

Rocco Corriero: 8:33

I don't know if it was a New York Times bestseller, but it was definitely a best seller on a couple. It's I don't know if it was New York Times bestseller. That didn't focus on that, you know, you know, what's interesting about the book that I wrote it very much is focused on a particular segment of the population, which is CEOs, entrepreneurs and business owners. So it's not really like a mass market kind of book is for people that kind of fit that category that are that are having the challenges that you kind of opened up the show with around like business, family self, and the struggling with it, right. And so that's why I wrote it, you know, true wealth was around when I saw you know, these highly successful business owners I was labeled, who's truly wealthy and it was the the person that was obviously a phenomenal business person, but also took care of themselves as an individual. And also was there for their family and their friends. And so it wasn't just around business, right? The people that just made a ton of money, and just were focused on business. You never saw the true wealth. They never got through what truly wealthy, you know, never.

Dustin Steffey: 9:47

And I don't want to overstep you But you did say something that I politely disagree with. Like you said the book is tailored to entrepreneurs, wealth and biz. business people. But I think it's tailored a little bit more based off of some of the things that I've read in it because I'm about a quarter of the way through, I think, aspiring people that are looking to go into the field, it almost gives a snapshot of some of the struggles too. So I think, I think it tailors a lot to a wider demographic than even you and I think,

Rocco Corriero: 10:23

yeah, you know, if you think about the three chords, financial, it really could have it could apply to anybody really could you know, the, the idea of financial being one of the chords and which everybody has and then self and then family. So it does apply to everybody, you are correct. This particular one, this particular book, was it kind of tilted towards if somebody was was a entrepreneur or a business owner, CEO, kind of they were able to relate a little bit more to it or an aspiring one as well. For sure.

Dustin Steffey: 10:54

Yeah. And I'm not here to like, call you call you out on it, right? I'm actually giving you more kudos, I think it does reach a wider audience. But I think you're right, the main audience are the people that can relate right now that are in the thick of it, and I get that for sure. But I'm putting my hat on as if I weren't. And I do see some cool things in there for people where, I don't know, it works. I mean, I've always applied business, even in my personal life, because there's a lot of lessons learned in business that you can apply to personal life.

Rocco Corriero: 11:31

Totally, absolutely. That's, you know, my, as my kids get older, you know, whatever they decide to do in their life, totally going to support them. But I kind of do hope that they they go the route of being entrepreneurs, because being an entrepreneur does create certain skills in one's life that can be applied to all areas of one's life. I mean, I think it helps you be able to deal with adversity, more challenge, a lot of debt, a lot of different things, really, you know, somebody wants it said to me, listen, Rocco, when I was younger, they're like, listen, I hope that you become a millionaire. I was like, I hope so. I do, too. And he they said, not for what not for what you can buy with the money, but for what it will make a view in becoming a millionaire. And I never forgot that. And, and, you know, listeners that are out there, you know, the, it's not necessarily about what you can buy with the money. It's the person that you become as a result of learning what's involved in creating the resources?

Dustin Steffey: 12:34

Absolutely, absolutely. And speaking of your book, I do want to dive in a little bit into it not, not like read it, like I guess we could read it page for page if we wanted to. But I want to dive into the main concepts, right, I do want to dive into the three chords, I want to break them out a little bit, I think. And I use this loosely, because I have a wide range of listeners, whether it be global or domestic. I think sometimes when people go into entrepreneurship, the thought process behind it is if I go into business for myself, when I'm not working for the man, to I'm going to have more time, and three, I'm going to make more money. But then I think as people dive into entrepreneurship a little more, they start seeing the same things that you and I have seen when we dove in, right. It's a lot of hard work. It's a lot of dedication, you're on your own island sometimes because it is your business your baby and no one understands it. And you are submerging yourself in it, which means that things that are in your life right now, whether it be you're married, whether it be you have kids, whether it be you have hobbies, those start getting put kind of in the wastebasket for a while as you start living and breathing, the business that you're trying to create to create your own success. Now, I'm not going to say that you're never gonna have time, I'm not gonna say you're never gonna have money. I'm not gonna say any of that stuff whatsoever. What I am saying though, is it takes a lot of time to get to that point. And I think the three chords that you bring up, kind of explain it really well. So I'd love to dive in. Let's do it. Alright, so let's start with the first one, whichever one you prefer.

Rocco Corriero: 14:19

Let's start with the first chord of let's put the let's do the first chord of self right, most business owners put themselves last but let's let's let's take the first quarter of self let's do it. So when you think about self, right, it's yourself as an individual right? So three chords represent yourself as an individual, your family slash outside relationships and also your business. So first chords meaning self is are you taking care of yourself, right? Are you you know, are you letting yourself just go? Are you going to doctor's appointments? Are you exercising? Are you eating right? Are you aware of your nose? numbers, right? Not just your financial numbers, but are you aware of your own numbers, right? I every three to four months, I get blood tests done and I measure my numbers, I do my inner age score pretty cool tool called inside tracker that's out there. I'm 49 years old right now it says my, my inner age score is 46. And the best I could have it be is 38. That's really important to me, you know, it's usually useless to create all this money and have all these relationships become useless if I don't focus on taking care of myself. So first chord being itself, personal development, professional development, all the things that revolve around you is self that that pretty much wraps up the first chord.

Dustin Steffey: 15:46

So with that first quarter, I think that's a really important chord, because like you said, it's taking care of yourself. So other things that revolve around that quarter, you taking enough time to do the things that make you happy to

Rocco Corriero: 16:02

absolutely, a lot of business owners, you know, on people, sometimes they feel like, it's a little bit selfish, if them if they have a little too much time for themselves, or they take time for themselves. And we're all guilty of it. I mean, that's a bowl, the three chords, that's the chord that I need the most work on, and I wrote the book on it. And so it's, you know, hobbies, interest. I mean, some people are really good at it, some people are so good at it. But that's the you know, I found most people are really good at two out of three of the courts, right one chord is usually they really struggle with. And so whether it's if they take really great care of themselves, and they're super, super successful business owners, then you sometimes see them not spending any time with the family. Or, if they're really great at business, and, and family, they lack on taking care of themselves, or if they're really great with their family and themselves, they let their business go away. So you know, all three or all three is real tough to do. But if you pay attention to all three, you'll do better that way.

Dustin Steffey: 17:08

Which let's dive into the next chord, I think we should dive into family.

Rocco Corriero: 17:12

Yeah, let's do it. So why, you know, family. So most, most business owners that go to go to work during the day, they come home at night, wake up in the morning with their families. And they're there, they run their businesses and they create, and they believe they're creating wealth, to to take care of their families and have their families be in better position. But that sometimes becomes too much where it's like, okay, well, they focus on the business, but their family feels like well, there's second fiddle, third fiddle here, where because the parent may not actually be around or the spouse may not be around. So the you know, what I found is the only way it's going to kind of sound funny, right? He and I talked to my family about this and sometimes they laugh at me, the only way to really make sure that you get the most amount of time with your family is to schedule it. Business people know that they you know, they're really good at scheduling appointments with customers, clients prospects, but you also got to schedule time with your family and and things that are scheduled have a very high percentage chance of happening, things that are not scheduled have that very high percentage chance of not happening. So being there for the family. I've married 20 years, two kids. And, and so and I've got my mom is still alive, my dad passed away in 2011. So today, I stopped over to see my mom went to pick her pick up prescription drugs and, and, you know, I had a lot of things I had to do. But I'm very conscious of the fact that I got to see my mom, right, I'm not sure how much longer my mom's going to be here. So I can always make money, that money will always be there. But I know that you know, your family and your friends wall.

Dustin Steffey: 19:00

So a lot of people know this. I'm a single father. And I know you know, as a dad, that it's hard to raise children having both family members but having one it's even harder. And I think that chord right there. Well, the self one I have some improvement on as well too. I don't focus on myself. I feel like I throw myself at the business and I make my hobbies and everything else go the wayside. But the family one is even more distressing, in my opinion because I'm a single dad, so I'm trying my hardest to raise my 10 year old daughter. But I also know that if I fail, she fails to so it's it's a hard balancing act. But the one thing that you did bring up that I do agree with is when I have something on my calendar when I have something scheduled, it has to happen. And so I can fix the first two chords pretty easily. But scheduling actually and having like, for this hour, this is gym time. And that's it. Like there's no other time other than that, and it has to happen. X amount of days a week. And for painting, I can schedule some time to whether it be an hour, whether it be two hours, whether it be a whole weekend, whatever the case may be, like, I think that is a really good strategy for business owners specifically to and entrepreneurs is schedule it, put it in the calendar. It does sound a little cliche, it does sound a little weird, but it it's your right about 90% chance that you'll follow through on it too. Yeah,

Rocco Corriero: 20:42

you know, I I've got a daughter too. And once a year, I tried to do dad and daughter weekend we go into the city, do fun things just turn i And and so if it doesn't, if it's not scheduled, there'll be a million the whirlwind will come in, it'll be a million reasons why it doesn't happen. So it's almost like you're fighting against the world when to make sure it actually happens. And that's it. That's why you got to schedule things. I'm a big, big believer in that, you know, scheduling things is kind of boring. It's not so exciting. It's not spontaneous, but to perform at high levels. In all three, you gotta you gotta have a calendar. We will

Dustin Steffey: 21:20

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Rocco Corriero: 23:23

Their quarter business, just like I love my family and, and I love myself, I also love my business. I love the work that I do, and the people that I help it with their financial planning and asset management, I'm able to take the three courts concept, and I'm able to apply that to them and have able to have them become more aware of life besides just being about the money. And and so you know, not only do I, you know, I focus on running my financial advisory business, I also have my, my I also have an author, right, so I'm writing, I've got the one book, I'm writing two other books right now have a small real estate portfolio with rental tenants. And so becoming and being financially successful is important to me, again, not for what I can buy with it, but for what I can do with it. I'm a big proponent of philanthropic helping others who actually either can't help themselves or offer you know, I'm not, you know, I do believe that people have to be, you know, to pay attention to what they're supporting and what they're helping because sometimes you can actually do harm by helping the wrong people when they when they maybe shouldn't be getting help. Most almost enabling people, important thing. So I've been, you know, helping people for 20 years and you kind of see right, this is where you know, this is where you can really make a big difference and so That's important to me as well. So, yeah, so making money and doing well in business really important. I know sometimes people say, Oh, money is the root of all evil. Money does nothing but cause problems. And that's not the truth, right? The truth is that money is a great emphasize or, and so if you're a kind, generous, wonderful person, the more money you have the kinder, more generous, more wonderful you will be. If you're a mean, nasty, rotten person, the more money that you have, you'll be meaner, more rotten, and nastier. And that's been my experience with financial resources.

Dustin Steffey: 25:39

money to me is not it's important it is because it helps you to pass on wealth to your children or child or it helps you to do the things that you like to do. However, money is not the most important thing to me. It's what you said prior, I like giving back to people. So like my podcast, is about giving information back to people to help them be better, to help people create more success, to help people understand where they might have deficiencies, I'm sorry, we shouldn't use deficiencies, let's use the word opportunities to be able to address them and become more successful. So I do this for the philanthropy side, right. But the money side, like you said, as long as your relationship is good with the money, like it also adds value, in my opinion. You

Rocco Corriero: 26:41

see, we all see the Hollywood celebrity, which had huge financial success, but they're, but you know, major, major trouble and so and so again, the trouble was there, it just the enormous wealth basically just created, it made it even bigger, like added fuel to the fire. And so, you know, it's, it's, I agree, I agree with us, you know, some people that are focused on material I listened, if somebody is focused on material items, you want to go out there and buy 10 cars, more power to you. But But I think, I think wealth creation. Well, the I think were, I'm not sure if you got to the chapter yet. But there's a chapter I think it's at the end of the book that focuses on the billionaire who had tons of resources, bought a football team, planes, yachts, everything it just couldn't find any happiness. And so he ended up by a friend of him said friend of his said, Hey, listen, I'm going to Mexico on a on a mission here, we're going to bring some kids wheelchairs, that can get wheelchairs. So the guys, that girl go with you. So he goes down there, and he brings a wheelchair, and he gives it to a kid, and the kid looks at him and with tears in his eyes and says, you know, I want to stare your face because I want to I want to remember your face, because when I see and heaven, I want to thank you again. And the guy, the guy told me he's like, I you know, he's like, with all the stuff that I had. He's like, I never felt wealthy wasn't until that moment where I could actually provide a wheelchair for this kid who couldn't get through a wheelchair is when I felt well, really true. Well, and that was like a, you know, and he, you know, nothing made the guy happy. I mean, he had every car, you can imagine jets, boats, yachts, cars, you know, none of that actually made him happy. But buying a wheelchair and making a positive difference in the life of somebody that could not help themselves, you know, was was true wealth. And I hope that, you know, the clients that I work with, I My hope is that they get to experience that I work with some real fabulously wealthy people. And I try to encourage people to really get that enjoyment from while they're still here, right? Because we're all we're all we're all none of us are gonna get out of here alive, right?

Dustin Steffey: 29:02

Not at all. Not at all. Yeah. So a couple of questions have stemmed from this. So we identified the three chords just to recap, chord number one itself, and that's taking care of yourself, enjoying hobbies, making sure that you're keeping your sanity, that that would be the self chord. Yeah. Number two is family. So being able to balance your business and yourself with family to make sure there's adequate time there. And then the third one is obviously the business and making sure that the business is thriving. So with that being said, and in all the experience that you have right now, what have you seen when you go and advise your clients? What are some strategies that you've seen where you've seen all of these click? And what are what are these people doing? What are wealthy people doing right now to make these all click what are some good strategies to maybe start implementing this a little bit. I know, we brought up a few, right, like scheduling in the calendar time to make things successful. But I know that there's a little bit more that you've seen. And I, I'd love to enlighten people on that.

Rocco Corriero: 30:15

You know, we we talk about this, and there's, you know, everybody has aspirations to be really terrific in all three areas. And so sometimes people say, No, where do I start, and I basically, without a yellow pad, my yellow pad says, get it done. So there's different things that need to get done. So just take a yellow pad doesn't have to be fancy or sophisticated, and you start writing down all the things that you would like to do in all three areas. So you can basically, you can basically break it into three different columns, self, family, and business, what are the things that you'd like to do, sort of by doing that, and then you transpose that into a calendar, calendar system as to when are you going to work on those different things. And the other piece is, you know, somebody might have a list of 100 things 100 Things is not even possible to get done, come up with three, come up with three in each each of the areas to or one and say, Okay, over this next quarter, I'm going to do these different what to do, you know, three things. And if you do three things in the three areas, that's nine things that you got done over the course of the year, that you might not have actually gotten done before. So that's because people do struggle with this, right? We all we all get charged up, we're gonna movie great, we're gonna do all these different things. And then when the world when he kind of stops.

Dustin Steffey: 31:42

I agree, I agree with that. And, you know, I wrote down the same thing as you, I don't know if we're on the same wavelength, but I wrote down before you even had brought it up, get it done. I think that, that's just the mantra that I live, like, you get it done, you do it, you you execute, and you're better off for it. So at the beginning of the year, my biggest strategy was, I want to sleep a minimum of seven hours. And I needed to change my schedule around because I still want to wake up at like, five 530 in the morning. So I can get myself portion started, right. So going to the gym in the morning, to start the day off for about an hour. And that night, I gave myself about a half hour before bed to read. It doesn't matter what you want to read, like if you all want to read a children's book, go read a children's book. But for me, it's reading things that add value to my business, to create that success. And so, in doing those two small tweaks this year, I've noticed a little bit of a shift in how I operate a little bit. And I feel a little bit better than what I did last year, because last year it was flying by the seat of my pants, and I was being roped or doing the roping or whatever the case may be. I didn't know which day was Monday, in which day was Sunday, sometimes because I felt unorganized. And so I think for me, structure is good the calendar, the calendar scheduling, like you and I were talking about, I think it's solid, because it's a structure for me to be able to follow. It's a roadmap that I'm pretty much making for myself. And I'm putting non negotiables in that roadmap. So from 530 to 630, leave me alone, I am working out. That's it. From 10 to 1030. I'm reading Leave me alone, that's my time to upskill myself, not only for the business, but for myself as well. Everything in between though, is business family, and creating the Empire or whatever you want to call chopping with fire, right? Because it it's more than just me at this point. It's everyone. I'm creating that success right there one step at a time.

Rocco Corriero: 34:08

You know, you're you know, the idea that you had said, getting it done and almost like, you know, really trying to protect your time, right? Nobody's really nobody's gonna call you or really bother you between that 530 to 630 time, right? So your daughter's probably sleeping, you know, friends, business associates, nobody's calling you at that time. So that's, you know, that's what you gotta do. Right? So if you you plug that in at different times, if you tried to plug in, oh, at six o'clock at night, I'm going to sit here and and read the book. It's not having it right. You know, you got your daughter you fold your ring in. It's just not not possible. So I think that you know, just listening to you, you know, you know your mark in that EMR in that time and when you do your market is the only way you're going to get it done right Right can't be spontaneous, you know, like, you can't be spontaneous about reading that book. It's basically like, this is my time to read the book. This is it.

Dustin Steffey: 35:08

Yeah, and I purposely bought a Kindle on purpose, like an expensive one. Because I hate spending money, I'd rather invest. Because I know that when I spend money on something, I have to do it. So I, I kind of purposely, like did that on purpose. So I'm starting to do the things that are right. For me. And it did take a good solid couple of weeks to adjust to it, it was rough, right? Because my normal schedule was wake up, work all the time, go to bed late, do it all over again. And I was noticing I was beating my body down, I was beaten, I was beaten down, I was short, short, fuse short tempered. And so that doesn't help with raising a child either, because you tend to spark a little faster, and that's not okay. So I had to take a step back. And, and there's a lot that's happened to me, I mean, in between, right. And I feel like I deal with things a little bit better. Now that my head is a little more solid.

Rocco Corriero: 36:12

You need that, right? That's, you know, you if you're not clear, right? So, if you're not focused, you're not clear, you're never gonna get to the levels that you want to get to. So it sounds like you got, you know, you got clarity as to what you want for yourself and how you're going to do it. And you're actually doing it. And that's really so awesome. Yeah, it's, you do what's required, it's through the deal.

Dustin Steffey: 36:38

And like you said earlier, no one's perfect at it, I still have opportunities to address, but I took some of them already and have addressed.

Rocco Corriero: 36:49

That is so awesome. That's, you know, that. And if you continue to do that, right, just continue to work on that and do that. And you don't bite off too much, too much at once, which I tend to do myself, you'll get, you'll just get a lot done. And you'll do it with balance, and you'll do it with happiness. And you know, that there's, you know, you gotta you got to take a look and say, Okay, where did I start? Two years ago, five years ago, one year ago, and I'm growing. And so measuring yourself against what you actually where you where you've come, where you've basically grown from versus what you aspire to, right? So a lot of times we just, we visually, you know, we we think we we measure ourselves against the ideal, right? And so we might be disappointed ourselves with that. But if you measure yourself against what you've done over the past 135 10 years, it's a great, you know, it's a great way to live.

Dustin Steffey: 37:52

So what's one major key piece of advice, if you were to, let's say, you and I left tomorrow, because time is not infinite? It's finite? Yep. What would be one key thing that you would want to impress upon the world? Like, what's one key piece of advice?

Rocco Corriero: 38:09

I would say, the key piece of the key p one piece would be focus on all three, like, be aware, work on all three, don't just work on one, right? You need, you need money to live. Right. And, you know, it's like, money's not important. But, you know, and money does help solve a lot of problems when problems occur in people's lives, right. And family is important, right? So you got to work on it. So that doesn't doesn't just happen. So people think, Oh, I'm entitled to family. I, you know, it just I don't need to put any work in there. Because I don't, that's not the way it works wrong. And then self, right. You know, people think, well, I don't need to pay attention to my house, right? I'm fine. Wrong. So so so the one piece of advice I'd give to everybody who's listening is work on all three.

Dustin Steffey: 39:06

And then just for the listeners, because this book is powerful, and I think it's important, especially for my listeners, where can you find it?

Rocco Corriero: 39:15

It's available on Amazon, Barnes and nobles.com I think it's on target.com It's, there's a retail within walmart.com and, you know, Amazon's and you know, easy place to get it. It's three courts approach to life and wealth management for business owners. And I hope your listeners get a copy of it and it makes it impacted their life pretty cool.

Dustin Steffey: 39:42

And for my listeners, I will drop the I'll drop the Amazon link because I think that's the easiest one for me to be able to draw. Sure will be episode description, and all sorts it to you Rocco so that way you kind of see like, who's who's kind of taken it in. So I'll make Everything's good in the episode description for all my listeners.

Rocco Corriero: 40:04

Thanks Dawson. This was It was great meeting you. My next trip out to Reno I'm gonna look you up hope to get together with you.

Dustin Steffey: 40:12

Well, if we have a live event coming up, I do send emails. I'd love to have you out. I think it would be great to have some of the people that I've interviewed and had on be there for support. Love to be there.

Rocco Corriero: 40:24

Thank you so much for the invitation.

Dustin Steffey: 40:27

And thank you for coming on. Thank you for just talking on such a such a powerful concept. I think we're all in. We're in this rat race together, right of the fast paced society trying to make it and everything and sometimes we need to slow down and focus on Well, the three chords.

Rocco Corriero: 40:44

You got it. Nice. Thanks. Thank you. Alright, take care well