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May 9, 2022

Kicking off Crypto Feat: Joey Whalen


We are excited to launch our 5 episode series on crypto currency. This first episode features Joey Whalen as he explains what crypto is and his journey within crypto. This series will help educate our listeners on crypto including: What crypto is, how investments work, NFT's, Block chains, and of course how Jaden and I are doing with our own Investments.

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Jaden Norvell:

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Dustin Steffey:

chock. Full Hello, chop nation. What is up you're joined by Dustin Steffey and

Jaden Norvell:

Jade Nova, what's up chop nation? How are we doing?

Dustin Steffey:

Well, Jaden, I'm glad you asked. Because it's the end of the week. And that's the best part of this week.

Jaden Norvell:

Oh, yes. Friday, love Fridays, the best day of the week?

Dustin Steffey:

Absolutely. So I mean, it was an all right week, right. Lots of work, lots of productivity. We got a lot accomplished. In zone has great things going on. We're getting to talk to Job nation right now. It's fun times.

Jaden Norvell:

Yeah, it's amazing. Thank you guys. For all your support. We got big news. This week, we raised over $1,000 for the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. That's $500 more I want to say about and just last week or leave before that. So thank you guys so much. And your donation means everything to us. Keep it up for watching. Hit the like button, leave some comments. Let's talk man, Ben.

Dustin Steffey:

Yeah, definitely want to hear from our listeners be able to get that feedback that we love to get and make sure that we're pacing in the right direction.

Jaden Norvell:

Definitely, so tell them what's coming up. Why are they here? What's the news?

Dustin Steffey:

Well Jaden, I'm glad you asked about that as well because this week kicks off a five seat five episode series on cryptocurrency and we are joined by a special guest Joey Whalen today. So so I'm very excited to have interviewed Joey. He provided some good value and helped us to understand cryptocurrency and the reason why we are going down this path right now is we are self development podcast. But we're also entrepreneurs as well. And with cryptocurrency being in its infancy stage still because there's a lot of people that don't know about it or are skeptic or are not just not ready yet, right? So I want to be able to give back to our listeners get back to everybody that listens and educate them on crypto to make the best decision that they can. And for everybody to be successful obviously. Yeah. So that that that's just exciting news in itself. So we're gonna go off our normal spectrum of self development and we're gonna dive into making money. How would you feel if you made extra money?

Jaden Norvell:

I feel great. And I could use I can always use everybody who's extra money.

Dustin Steffey:

I mean, even even millionaires asked for more money.

Jaden Norvell:

What are you selling?

Dustin Steffey:

Well, I haven't decided what yet. Maybe I'm selling you a dream. Maybe I'm selling you information. Or maybe I'm just a cut

Jaden Norvell:

friend. Okay, stop the cow.

Dustin Steffey:

Yeah. Actually, I don't have to sell you Jaden because you and I are very well invested in new crypto. And while we still could learn more, we're, we're doing well. We have 10 coins right now that we've diversified and they're doing when they're doing well, and it's thanks to the information that we're receiving from our special guests, and research, which you and I both know, we research so much. And oh, yeah. And lastly, it's just the willingness to learn.

Jaden Norvell:

That's the biggest one.

Dustin Steffey:

So what are your thoughts on cryptocurrency right now I know you were saying in the beginning that you you don't know very much right.

Jaden Norvell:

Now, I don't know, barely anything, really. But I know about like the basic level stuff, commercials and stuff I've seen on TV. So you'd like me, I'm here to learn as well.

Dustin Steffey:

This is going to be fun for you, I think, because you're going to be learning with our listeners that don't know too. So this is going to be fun, your journey is going to be the fun one where we can talk about it and see how you stack up with our listeners that are in the same phase as you.

Jaden Norvell:

Okay, so let's see, like making money. So it'd be fun.

Dustin Steffey:

I'm excited for this. This is a series that a lot of the listeners have been asking for. There's still people that are relatively new to crypto, and then there's people that are, like me that are like in it, but could learn more. And then you have who were interviewing all the interviews that we have for crypto, they're experts, they know what they're doing, but financial disclosures and stuff they're not. They're not financial analysts, right. So they're normal people like you and I. So whatever is said on our podcast or by them, is strictly just educational purposes, crypto is and forever will be volatile. So it is always going to have some form of a risk. What he said, right, so again, we're not financial advisors, but we will educate on it and see how we do. So some key things that I'm excited for JD and honestly, for our listeners is one the education piece. Because I feel like money is important you and I know this, but knowledge is even more important. So that that's one area I'm excited for. The second area I'm excited for is the fact that we have willing guests that want to talk about it and help people to understand it. Because education is key, right? So if someone doesn't understand it and goes in blind, of course, they're gonna lose money, but people that are educated, they stand a better chance in understanding and investing appropriately. The third thing that I like about it is it all ties to yours and my journey, and then our listeners coming up with us. So I'm excited for those three things. What are you most excited for?

Jaden Norvell:

I'm excited to do these interviews with successful people that have succeeded in crypto, find out more about it. ins and outs and get a base understanding and knowledge coming out and feel like I can actually be part of conversations when people talk about cryptography and actually add some value to

Dustin Steffey:

the biggest thing I took from that for you specifically is, again, what I said right knowledge is power. So for you to be able to speak intelligently on it. That's more important, in my opinion.

Jaden Norvell:

Yeah, absolutely. Anything, just come in, have an open mind. And I'm excited, you're gonna see

Dustin Steffey:

me too. And with that being said, I want to just remind everyone that we have social media. If you guys are still living in the stone age, I recommend downloading Facebook or Instagram or LinkedIn or Twitter, whatever you decide to download. And when you do, go ahead and look us up, we'll be your first friend and we don't bite. So on Facebook, that's at chopping with fire. On Twitter, it's at chopping fire. On Instagram, it's at chopping with fire. On LinkedIn, it's out chopping wood fire, and of course, everything is housed on our wonderful website@www.chopinwithfire.com. Again, we thank our listeners for all the support for helping us raise for cystic fibrosis. And furthermore, we also appreciate it if you guys go to our Patreon which is www dot Patreon P A T R e o n.com. Forward slash chopping with fire. All proceeds donated on our Patreon go to cystic fibrosis and the Boys and Girls Club. That without further ado, we are going to introduce Joey our interviewee and have some fun learning about crypto

Jaden Norvell:

Enjoy Guys!

Joey Whalen:

So as we talked about, as we talk about crypto and invest memberships all these things we have to understand that in crypto as, as myself and as anyone else, I'm not your financial adviser, I'm not anyone's financial advisor. Any investment or trading or memberships involve risk and you can potentially lose anything or all money. But that's just a disclaimer that we always say just to protect everyone legally. So moving forward.

Dustin Steffey:

And in the same token for chopping wood fire, we're not a financial institution at all, either. We're merely providing information to add value for anyone who wants to invest in try it out and understand.

Joey Whalen:

Right, this is just a recommendation kind of thing.

Dustin Steffey:

Absolutely. With that being said, Joey, thanks for joining our show. I thoroughly appreciate you. I would like to just kind of have a conversation help our listeners understand crypto and understand kind of what you do. Can you help someone who doesn't know anything about crypto? Can you kind of explain it like in a manner that someone would make sense of it?

Joey Whalen:

Sure. So like, like cryptocurrency, to put it in the most basic terms is, if you understand a bank is digital, and you understand that your apps and all the computer data associated with money these days, it's already in a digital sense already. This is just a more formal version of that that is decentralized. So the centralized way of finance but cryptocurrency and besides the ones and zeros of binary and computer programs, like literally, if you ask them make tomorrow for a million dollars, if you have that you ask them for cash, they can't give it to you, they have to source it out, you know, so it's like, literally bank money, your account my account everyone's accounts is just ones and zeros of binary of people, you know, telling us what they have in their account. So I'm taking that even further into cryptocurrency. It's just decentralized finance or defy as we use in the industry. And it's just basically a token or something that currently 11,000 token projects or Kryptos. out there now. And there's so many and and the value is determined by how much it's traded in USD and it's in it's similar to the stock market, but much more volatile. And yeah, crypto, there's a lot more to it than that. But to keep it as basic as possible, it is just the digital representation of of money that is networked through similar to like peer to peer systems where people network music or network, and it's not all in one area, you can't just go to this bank and say this is where the money is. It is spread out over a network or a blockchain. And that is how it is sourced and, and you can make transactions in one coin, which is awesome. As the coins have evolved over time, you can even do transactions on just one coin on like one Aetherium, you could you could send money like PayPal or Venmo. So they're getting more and more and more complex and versatile. So it's very exciting. What I like about the most about crypto is that it's actually looking to be able to bank the unbanked. So for those who are in markets or third world countries, Second World countries, they don't have access to banks, but they can get a cell phone. And they can open an account or Coinbase or by Nance or any of these exchanges, and they can literally start getting coins and money and making transactions without having access to any banks and stuff similar to that. So

Dustin Steffey:

would you say crypto is in its infancy stage still? Because I mean, I feel like there's a lot of people that don't know what it is.

Joey Whalen:

Yeah, my parents included. Yeah, my tears don't get it. Yeah, my mom was in her Bunco club or whatever, you know, whatever. The bridge of today, whatever talking about Yeah, that's crypto is not gonna last I was like, Mom, no. And I love my mom to death. And she now understands a little more once I've, you know, told her but you know, it's not a fly by night thing. It is something that's constantly growing and evolving. And it's growing out of control to well, in a good way. I mean, there's countries that are instituting cryptocurrency, for instance, El Salvador is the first one to be on the map to say, Hey, this is our official bank. This is our official currency. It's a cryptocurrency. I can't remember what it's called at this moment, but that's huge. That's breaking ground for Okay. El Salvador is on the map. They are not playing around. Right. So I mean, people are moving to El Salvador just because they know it's safe there to do crypto. I remember

Dustin Steffey:

when that happened. That specific event because my portfolio for all of crypto that day skyrocketed.

Joey Whalen:

Yeah, yep. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And the nice part about crypto is is the volatility is is a little higher than it's a lot higher and my opinion and stocks, but it's definitely still tied to the news and that more, you know, those those tangible things and news items like Elon, you know, pumps, you know, Dogecoin Dogecoin up a lot, you know, Hmm Dogecoin is a great investment it's a great coin to have. But technically it is the bare bones basic Aetherium base coin or it's actually a meme coin, I guess is what it's called. And there's not a whole lot to it but because Elon and Tesla, it's it's definitely it's one of my top 10 Honestly, even though it's a bare bare bones token, so

Dustin Steffey:

was one of my top 10 And then Elon pumped up Shiva II knew a little bit and she went took off and so Shiva I actually am invested in overdose.

Joey Whalen:

Yeah, yeah. And that's another meme coin. Same thing. Yeah, there's actually 10 sectors we can kind of diversify your portfolio and there's layer one there's now layer two blockchain investment so yeah, there's a lot and my my top 10 is constantly changing as well. And you can get on any social media Tik Tok and grab everybody's obviously number one number two are Bitcoin and Aetherium. I personally love Ethereum the most if they're going to point out should be coming out later this year Cardona XRP XRP I know there's the lawsuit with coin base and all that stuff. XRP is definitely one of the top of my list. I'm a huge advocate of Tron. I'll explain that later. I love Tron. It's actually it's been on my phone since for the last year and a half since I started this. I'm actually a big fan of USD T tether. Whether it's Aetherium or Tron base, Solana polka dot Cardano Dogecoin GPU, Kronos. Stellar. Stellar is a really good one. Stellar is doing one of those unthinkable things that I talked about to bank me on linkable just where you could go into a convenience store, just pop in a, you know, load up a card and drop it into one of these exchanges. So and then mo F. You probably never heard of molecular futures. But that is definitely in my top 10. I'll explain that a little bit later. Lunas a good one. So you know, you have you want to do definitely want to diversify. And there's 10 sectors. I'm not going to get into them all. It gets very nerdy and techie. And I'm not really this is not what we're here for. But you want to get some Metaverse tokens, like Lumen or mana, Blockchain gaming, that's a new industry that's kind of getting up there like H E or game. There's Dow's DDoS. Like maker, let's see what others cross chains. There's tokens that work into multiple chains, like multi chains like atom. So yeah, I mean, the list goes on. And there's honestly, you know, with all those wonderful things, there's still a lot of risk involved. You can go on pancake swap, and buy all these 1000s of all these coins, maybe 10 of them, and just see if something hits but that's, you know, that's just kind of playing that waiting game that kind of, unfortunately, gambling comes to mind. And when I think of that, you know, it's just kind of you just kind of, you know, playing playing the roulette wheel on that scene when hits and that's not actually what I do. I'm actually part of, I promote mostly a community building the community of the metaverse, so I'll get into that a little more.

Dustin Steffey:

I'm the same issue wanting to get Etherium and Bitcoin I prefer Aetherium over Bitcoin, so I'm heavily invested in your Aetherium the good one, then my number three is Solana which I'm staking it, which I'm sure you'll get into staking later, but I'm staking that one. And then Cardano is my number four, which I'm staking in Cardano as well. Polka Dot and five. Shiba Inu is six. Polygon is seven. Stellar is eight stellar got it? Litecoin is nine.

Joey Whalen:

And the coins in the top 10 of all Yeah, yep. And then

Dustin Steffey:

USD T tether is my 10.

Joey Whalen:

Well, you're gonna we're very familiar. So yeah, that's yeah,

Dustin Steffey:

it's, it's been rough. And you explain this in the beginning. Like, it's very volatile. So there are days where I'm down like grand and then days, I'm up like two. So

Joey Whalen:

yeah, so yeah, you don't want to play that emotional game. So a lot of people. Yeah, they it's like the same way they gamble or they try to make they try to double down and make up what they lost. And then they lose again. You gotta just, I mean, there's several kinds of traders out there. You got your scalpers your day traders and swing traders. I prefer the whole long, I'm the long game kind of guy. Definitely just, you know, just I'm in it for the long haul on a lot of these niches, especially with the community ones. So yeah, it's just gotta let let the market do what it's doing and just keep your faith, especially if you got to talk to him like that. That's also which is really huge, which we talked about stellar lumens. XRP, the ones that are tied to banks and governments. That's a no brainer, because you know, the governments are going to be instituting and use them just like El Salvador. Yeah. You know, in Dubai right now in Dubai is they just had the conference couple, not even a month ago in Dubai. It's the crypto conference I wanted to go but I just had already taken my vacation in Cancun, so I couldn't. But um, yeah, there's definitely a good networking there. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Let me ask you this question. What if let's say you had a prebuilt community kind of like, not like Facebook, not people that are just out there promoting themselves and doing their own thing, but a pre built community? Let's say it's close to a million people. And they had a token or a community token that they promoted within that community. All right. When you say let's say 100,000 of them promoted it day one, that'd be a pretty successful token, wouldn't you say?

Dustin Steffey:

I would say, considering how like, doji is a great example right? Overnight, based on Elon saying something popped up.

Joey Whalen:

So the community that I'm working with builds the metaverse, it's called hyper verse. And again, this claimer, this is a community token. So there's have to kind of get in, I won't get into all the details, but it is not investing its membership. And this one is just blown my mind. So when you're like, you know, throwing spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks as far as investments. This one has, has worked for me 100 times out of 100. So this community has been being built for just over two, almost two and a half years, it's approaching a million users. And they've already got 4 billion contributed in just that time. That's and it's not crowdfunding per se, but it's similar to that. So, you know, like Costco or American Airlines credit card, do you know how they have points and rewards? Right? Yep, you know, Costco, like you go, you let's say you buy the executive business plan, right, and you use your credit card, and you spend 20 grand over the year, or let's say you have your own restaurant, like my uncle, they would spend like 60 grand or something like that, and meat and steaks and stuff. And at the end of the year, they get their 2% back, they were points rewards. And they eventually converted to dollars, and they get a check for like $1,200 At the end of the year. So here you go. Thank you for being a member. Yep, someone to that or like American Airlines, or southwest, you get their credit card, you know, they're always pushing them down the aisles up in the air flight. Here we go. And you know, they give you 50,000 miles to start up, and then you spend with them on their credit card, you get 400,000 miles over time, and those points convert to credits for a flight or hotel, right. But it's not technically dollars, right? Versus that exact same, same thing. It's a membership, where the community token we've already built the community, it's still growing very fast. And these community tokens convert to that molecular futures that I was talking about. So eventually, it converts to a Fiat. If you decide to pull out something for yourself, and you change it, you can exchange it for Fiat at the exchange, it's a membership that pays you earn rewards. You know how like when something gets really big, and a lot of people start to get really successful and people start coming up you like you know, yeah, so we have a team, we have a team, it's a multibillion dollar company. And they have a team of lawyers that make sure everyone including myself stays in compliance because you risk losing your account. And so that's very serious, serious thing there. So yeah, but the Ryan shoe and Sam Lee Sam Lee is out of Australia, Ryan's shoes from China. Ryan's shoe, they call him The Martian. He's basically been one of the first people to large scale mine. And before large scale mining was even a term like before he was doing angel investing, when we're only 1% of the population was even considering cryptocurrency as an angel investment. I mean, they're doing like some really big things and he became the one of the first crypto billionaire self made just from mining and and the exchange. So if you ever look up who it's called, it's spelled H O in English the WHO exchange that's his. If you remember I was talking about Tron Yep. All also his he created that with with partners. So he he built his empire to after 2012 When finally Bitcoin he kept mining it even though when he was losing money, and energy, kept building and building and building and that's why they call him the margin because he had he had the white paper, he saw the vision believed it. And of course, you know what happened it rebounded. And then he was already mining Aetherium and all these other ones and, you know, built the $12 billion empire in the last several years. partnered up with Sam Lee and Sam Lee actually NGOs and institutes, places like El Salvador that are trying to do government tokens or how do we go about this? How do we institute you know, tokens to make it legal here, all these wonderful things? And yeah, so. So he started this community that hypergraphs where are you in the metaverse, by the way? We're trying to be a couple of couple of steps ahead of meta V understand that. Yeah, well, they're already in the metaverse, you can do avatar, you can set up your own digital business, all those things. You can even live Original there large scale mining that's now in the United Arab Emirates. And so yeah, that community that's in less than two and a half years, we're putting a million users already. And people are coming to us saying, Please take our token projects, because we know, with your prebuilt community is going to promote it's going to do something, you know. So that's what I'm most excited about. Because I take anything that I, you know, I earn rewards, and points with that. And then any, anything that I convert to fiat, I can take that and put that out into my portfolio, or, you know, get some gear, different from my music, production, all those things. So,

Dustin Steffey:

yeah, got you involved in crypto, Joey, like, what was the one turning point or event that got you involved in the crypto,

Joey Whalen:

I am a former network marketer. I'm not currently very big promoter of that industry. I know some people don't like it. And that's fine. I loved it. Because I did. I failed miserably for many, many years. But I got the education. And then I had some minor success. And my friends and mentors are in Sacramento. And we had just started a new one new company brand new with a multimillionaire guy that all everything he touches is gold, and then COVID hit, and it was a travel company. And COVID hit and we're like, just like, right, we're just getting started. And enough obviously, they are retired from from doing network marketing for direct sells for the last several years being successful. But obviously when this when COVID hit were like so I'm still doing my full time job in Panasonic. And we had to pivot. So they pivoted to crypto, they started looking around, they found a gentleman who's who was just featured in Forbes magazine to page cover feature Rabu Gary, who's been doing platforms. So this is why I was talking about Tron and daps or D apps as they're called Ethereum based. That's why Aetherium 2.0 is going to be so big, and layer two blockchain tokens. But these D apps have what is the largest growing thing currently, which is smart contracts, they have to be careful, because there's a lot of bad ones out there that are not sustainable. Trust me, I've been in and we tried, and we failed. You know, we lost some money here and there. But then we found the ones that were working, the ones that were successful, the ones that did have the credibility that did have the pedigree, such as Ryan shoe, and the $12 billion mega industry, you know, that he's built. So that kind of led us to crypto which led us to the hyper hyper verse. And after when we found the hoppers, it was pretty much a wrap after that. But Ron at Turner correlate shout out to them and Sylvester her husband, both amazing individuals by personal mentors, and crypto. And they were just like, the kind of like, Hey, I'm gonna make a little extra money. I'm like, yeah, they're like, try this right here. And that's I just dove in headfirst. I, you know, I lost some money on some transactions, trying to figure out how to get this all together. They were busy working with their people. And we just started helping people, not just for hyper virtual for other platforms, actually making money. And we're like, oh, this is working. This is good. And yeah, so from that, it was basically COVID started it, to answer your question fully, and, and has continued to do so and work very well, very, very, very well.

Dustin Steffey:

Where do you see crypto heading in the next 510 years

Joey Whalen:

continually to start to dominate more of the market? I do. I don't think it's going to be everything that's we're always going to have some kind of cash, we're always going to have banks. You know, your we still have checks, right? People still writing checks, businesses, you know what I mean? So it's not gonna those banks that's not going to ever go away, we still have taxis, right? Even though Uber dominates Lyft dominates, we're still going to need those old school versions, for whatever reasons and tangible money in cash, you know, we're still going to need that. But it's still definitely going to dominate, I would say dominate a little more, if, like I said, 1% of the population was participating in more and more jumping in. I don't know, if you have a telegram. Where do you notice that all your context, if you have a telegram and you notice that all these people are joining telegram? Like every day, like every one of my contacts in my phone? This guy is gonna like, must be crypto in my mind. It's crypto. I don't know. We're just because it's an exploding social media that's better than WhatsApp in some areas. But well, yeah, just I think crypto is definitely going to really start to dominate. It's going to move forward with governments as they are. And that's why a lot of portfolios should be invested in those things that are tied to those governments and keeping everything legal and kosher. But I mean, there's a lot of alternate coins and there's going to be a lot of failures out there and there's going to be coins that aren't aren't around the next two years that are not here now. But all those ones that we talked about on our top 10 that are tied, and have more grounded promotions and contracts, those are going to be definitely something to look forward to. So

Dustin Steffey:

I agree with you, I, I had a conversation with my mother, actually last week, and I was telling her about, Hey, Mom, you should, uh, you don't have a retirement, you should maybe invest a little bit of money into crypto so you can build. And she's like, but it's not real. And it's like, it's no more, it's no more real than the government sending you these checks for relief that we pulled out of thin air.

Joey Whalen:

Yeah. Yeah. Without inflation and everything. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just like to what I do, I just like to tie myself to someone who has a vision, and or find somebody super successful, obviously, just like anything else, and just duplicate exactly what they've done. And run that. And Sylvester and Sacramento have very much, I've had the most success in crypto than anyone I've ever personally known. And I'm doing exactly what they did. So I can have the same success that they've had already. So my passion is helping people. My passion is music, and my, my lovely daughter, that's sleeping right over there. Line. I really love I get a lot of gratification of helping people, helping people that want to be helped not forcing people to do anything, people that are looking, you know. And as a former network marketer, that was a similar tie down the hyper versus definitely not network marketing or MLM there's definitely a referral program involved. But it's definitely just Kryptos is really, really changed my life. And the opportunities are just ramping. Like I said, with Aetherium based D apps and smart contracts, they're just taken off and people are starting to really compete for each other. Because if you're in pretty much dominates, and all the gas prices, as you know, are very high. And it can be slower. And we use a lot of Tron smart contracts now and it's cheaper. But they're gonna get better with the layer two, and things will eventually get better and when Aetherium 2.0 Finally, hopefully releases out at the end of this year, but

Dustin Steffey:

I'll be definitely invest in in that as well, too. So, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Tell me what you know, and you may or may not and it's okay, if you don't, because I don't, yeah, NF T's are fairly new. They're really new, actually. What do you know about them? And how do you feel about them?

Joey Whalen:

Dominated by teenagers? The richest teenagers in the world are doing NFT they're similar to you make a cool and they can be the most basic as you can see, some of them are just like the most pixelated stuff and like, why is this 120 3 million but you know, when they just get something gets used and and bid on and passed around? So many times the value just goes up? Like like a Van Gogh, you know, something like that is like, you know, this guy was good. We all say he's good. We all agree. Okay, yeah, this one's good. And the value just pumps up like a pump. Like it's not a pump and dump where people just pump and dump a bad token that has real actual no value. It's all said synthesize, but the NF T's really do they really do gain value for further uses and trade and I don't know any more. That's, that's the limit of my knowledge on it. But I do understand that NF T's now have their own tokens. And so that's something I'm definitely jumping into. But NF T's are just they are what they are and there's more digital landscapes coming about with NF T's now. You saw the the first rapper that released his songs for what was it? $1 each and then it was $1 million. Yep. Yeah, that I mean, he was like he was doing something when I saw that I was like, there's another visionary right there. You know, getting because not to say that record companies are out to get every artist but they very much take advantage and don't pay out when you can just be doing your own thing. And crypto is another way you can have like, you know digital audio assets. In that same token just as pieces of art like Emma nfts

Dustin Steffey:

Just for my listeners and even you as well to your kicking off my five episode series on crypto, which I'm very blessed to have you kicking it off.

Joey Whalen:

I appreciate that. I'm I'm honored as well. Yeah,

Dustin Steffey:

I can't thank you enough. But within those five episodes, I am going to have someone on that's going to talk on NF t's a little more than you and I would know because I'm very interested in like that NF T world too because like for your for you for example with who you're a part of in your community, who's to say your community can't make one rare NF T and make it work so much. Same with my podcast right? So Jaden and I have tea for our podcast and Bill load that up. It's an image. What?

Joey Whalen:

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, do you know yet the mentum, for instance, you can use Metamask. And it costs Ethereum, you're going to be anywhere from three to $500 to mint one, if you're young, Etherion. Based, which most, which everybody is. Yeah. And then from there, you just kind of have to put it out. And I guess they bid on them. Yeah, this is where I get lost, because I know you can see them on meta mask, and I've looked through a meta mask, and there's other ones like Solana does it, I believe, was hilarious. I believe it's hilarious.

Dustin Steffey:

Yeah, it's select selectors.

Joey Whalen:

Hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the extent of my knowledge.

Dustin Steffey:

You, you and I are about to learn more, because you'll you'll see these episodes, and then you and I are going to be smarter for it.

Joey Whalen:

I can't wait to hear it. That'd be great. So

Dustin Steffey:

let's have some fun a little bit. I want something fun about you. So like, Let's get off crypto for a second and tell me like, Yeah, please, something interesting about you that like, no one would know or a hobby that you like to do or like, just something interesting.

Joey Whalen:

Yeah, I love to make music. I do really bad impressions of celebrities. I do even impressions of people that I work with. Which I will not do that here. Yeah, I am a music producer DJ of music since I was in the fourth grade. When I was 16. I played in Carnegie Hall with a with a youth orchestra in New York. So that was probably the highlight of my life. Yeah, so that's, that's, that's about that. Yeah. And I'm just I love dad jokes. I've always wanted to do open mic. Like, but my my jokes are pretty bad. But I definitely think I would get up and have the balls to get up on an open mic and just not kill but probably just be the worst comedian anyone ever saw. But I would do it. I wouldn't put myself through

Dustin Steffey:

it, brother. I'd be walking up there with you. I do the same thing. I might not be good at it. But I'll walk up there. And I'll try it.

Joey Whalen:

Yeah, yeah, like years ago, I wouldn't have tried something. But this year, I tried snowboarding. I had tried it one time, but had nobody to teach me and, and I gave up. But this time this year, today, I went or couple, six weeks ago, I went snowboarding. And I actually had a co worker and friend take me and he actually kind of gave me a couple of tips. And then by the time my my second run, I was shredding and I was getting both sides of the board. And yeah, I just I like trying new things, and pushing myself. Especially you know, physically and mentally. Because that prepares you for this game of crypto in this game of leadership development, all those wonderful things. And that's why Yeah, you're in this podcast. Yeah, getting out of your comfort zone. Because my mentors, and many have told me your comfort zone is your broke zone.

Dustin Steffey:

Yep, I agree. We, I just had an interview with Dwayne Taylor. He's a facilities manager in the Bay Area, and he's a scout for the Canadian Football League. And him and I were talking. And one thing that we had brought up is what separates us. So you, me, even Dwayne and Jaden from everyone else is drive consistency and commitment.

Joey Whalen:

Yes, absolutely. Those are three huge keys. Want to present? Yeah. And where do you find the drive? Like, what are your goals, short term, long term, I like to do 90 Day blitzes, or 90 day just fit I just wrapped up a 90 day when I call the 90 day challenge, and I'm about to start the next one tomorrow. So but yeah, for me, a lot of it also is just trying to keep you know, I do presence of mind, check on my Facebook, that's my kind of my thing is making you know, see where your head's at, because whatever feels good is what you should be doing. If it doesn't feel good, you really shouldn't be doing it. Because you're not gonna if you believe in law of attraction, or God or whatever it is, for anyone out there. If you're doing something like a job that you hate, I highly recommend you stop that. When I got to my wonderful job at Panasonic, which I owe them very, very much. I found myself in a spot where I was not happy anymore. And I was I was descending and I was I was doing crypto that was ascending. But I was just not happy. And I got out of there on my own terms, somewhat. And two days later, I got hired on my birthday for the job that I have now. And that job is amazing. And I work barely 40 hours sometimes I work longer. Were short stuff. But being a manager there. I have time for my music. I have time for my beautiful daughter and I've done for my crypto business and building my my my team so yeah, I'm just grateful for that in that Feels good. And what started happening, things started coming, things started to track and things started happening in my way everything works out in my favor. And just I mean, I have can I tell you one quick story, my best story that has really? Yeah, okay. Yeah. So so if for people that don't believe law of attraction, or God or whatever, having the right presence of mind that stuff works, man, it's not just being positive, it's how you feel. Because thinking is the is the language of the brain. And emotions is the language of the body. And you get those to feeling good as much as possible. Not always not perfect. You need the dark to see the light, you need the bad need that negative emotion to know what you don't want, so that you can launch your rocket of desire, whatever it is that you want, the will, that does not feel good. I need to be over here. That's okay. But just try to stay on the good side, the good feeling side, the good emotions, good beliefs, and all those things. And the other I was I had done I do meditation as well. But something I picked up this year that has completely revolutionized my life. I am a Christian. I have prayed many, many times. And that does work for me as well. But meditation took it to a whole nother level. And things started really poppin for me, and I wish I meditated more than I do. And I'm something I'm working on for that commitment. But one day I had meditated, got into my reading. Everything was good. I was feeling my music. And I got my personalized like license plate. And it says crypto something right now. And I sold my dream truck because it was a liability. It was an overbought on it. That's all another story. And I paid cash for this camera. So it's kind of an old camera. It's not super beat up but it's nothing flashy, right? It's just that it has vanity plates. Just like crypto Joey. And so I slept them on. I'm feeling good that day. I pick up my daughter about to go to the carwash I stop at the gas station. And a guy pulls up right next to me. And his plate says something to the effect of defiance. And he goes you do crypto I'm like you do crypto. Yeah. He's like so we started talking we connected turns out this guy has a whole upon I think has a pocket as well some of you but he does the whole he has a whole group of people that he's doing token projects with and promoting coins and all this stuff and he just got his a major network you know that I can help him he can help me we can connect right? I was like, Huh, interesting, right? You know, feeling good this all day, right? Nothing's nothing's bringing me down. Not everything's going right. I go to the carwash. I'm in the carwash washing my own Camry and oppose this brand new cherry red Ferrari Testarossa. And I'm like, I know he's not coming in the mechanical carwash, he's gonna go to the hand wash, right? And he turns around, and like, you know what, I'm gonna talk to that guy. I go to my carwash, I'm waiting. I pay my daughter's having fun inside, we're at hutches, and he's, I think he crosses my path. But I want to talk to the wrong guy, as well. Yeah, just let it happen organically, you know, force that. I finally go park my car and kind of going through my stuff. And there he is not there. I think it's him. I was like, Hey, is that you? Post Rosa. I was like, yeah, it was like, Let me guess, crypto. He goes, Yeah. He's like, what do you do? He's like, Oh, I sold a bunch. And I did really well. I paid cash for this. And then I also had a vacation I'm going on. I was like, interesting. And then he looks at my old Camry, right? I am attracted to nothing with this Camry, but it's funny. But he sees it as like, Oh, you do crypto too. I'm like, Yes, I do. And as a matter of fact, Freitas Rosa has been my dream car for years ever since Sir Mix A Lot came up with that song in the 90s. That dates me by the way. And he's like, I was like, Hey, man, let's connect. Got his number. We got a lunch appointment. He's taking me for a spin on the Testa Rossa, and we're going to trade you know, I'm going to talk about my membership. What I do, he's going to talk about what he did. And we've been texting ever since. And that was within two hours. That that happened like that. And I was like, Okay, this is real law of attraction. It's a real thing. And when you feeling good, things just kind of come across your path. You just kind of recognize them when they show up. I

Dustin Steffey:

believe in it too. And to solidify your story, how you and I met Bill his law of attraction to because that was a day where I was talking about my podcast with the people that were working there. And I was like, Man, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm a self development and entrepreneurship podcast, and I want to have cryptocurrency be a part of it as well too, because I think that was so big. And they're like, do you guys have do you guys have any one big and I was like, Well, I interviewed a guy in Sacramento who's a crypto cowboy out in Citrus Heights and I He's a personal friend. So I was happy with that. But I was like, No, I haven't run into anyone big or of importance or relevance to be able to really like solidify, having the credibility to talk about it. And then I shit you not five minutes later, you walk in. And so that right there is another example of law of attraction. And I genuinely believe in that.

Joey Whalen:

Yeah. And how are you feeling that day? You were feeling pretty good?

Dustin Steffey:

Yeah. Well, it was, it was a great day for me, because we had finally gotten our first sponsor for our podcast. So I upgraded the equipment. I got the road caster for the podcast and all of that stuff, though. And so it was, it was a great day for us, because we finally had solidified our equipment to create killer content at high quality.

Joey Whalen:

That is good. That is good. That's awesome. So it's cool, man. Yeah, and that was not a coincidence. People say it. Like, you know, when you think of somebody, and then they call, not a coincidence. Oh, I was just thinking about, gee, what, it's not a coincidence. And there's my braces, like, you physically can can measure people's brainwaves. That ought to tell you right there that we're putting stuff out there. And,

Dustin Steffey:

and I'm, I'm a firm believer, also, and you can call me crazy. But if you put negative out into the universe, you're gonna get negative. And if you put positive out into the universe, you're gonna get positive.

Joey Whalen:

That's 100% led to literally the golden rule of law of attraction. 100%, right. Yeah.

Dustin Steffey:

Yeah. So I mean, I've had a rough year, like this year. But the best things that have happened to me are obviously my daughter, obviously, this podcast has been a great thing. One of the things that we talked about all the time on the podcast is, don't chase other people's dreams chase your own. And so yeah, we're definitely heading in that direction.

Joey Whalen:

Absolutely, because you can only control what you can control. And the biggest journey you're gonna have to make is the six inches between your ears. And for me, and for me, it was consistency. Like I have a little note that says consistency is key. That's just, that's been my biggest, like, I'm very self aware, nowadays, in my early 40s, so that what I need to work on my consistency, I'm very spontaneous, I'm a bullet, you know, how the how the colors of the personalities like blue fun, the fun guy, if it ain't fun, I'm not doing it. That's why I like restaurants, you can have fun. I did production for four and a half years. And it was fun for a little while. But those 13 hours would became a grind, and the commute. So that wasn't fun after a while, so that's why I'm back having fun in the restaurant. You know, just like, and like I said, it just has to feel good it has to him. And again, those things are going to happen to you. And having taken responsibility for those negative things, that's probably was one of the hardest things for me to accept. Because other people's, they have their own sphere of influence that couldn't clashed into yours. So you know, can't take everything completely personally, but just have to kind of own your own shit. You got to own your stuff, you know what I mean? You got to you know, like, hey, you know, I'm responsible for like, all these choices that I've made, and all these opportunities that have attracted negative or positive, I'm the one that can change it. I'm the one that did it. So if you're constantly and don't think certain way, if you constantly go into that same job, and you're meeting your same family members, and the same co workers and same friends, they're all firing those same neurons and, and neural pathways that you already have in your head. And that's causing that student be in that same emotional state and that same chemical residue of your past from your past decisions. So you're literally in the present. We're living in your past. That makes sense. Like Dr. Joe Dispenza, is one of my one of my favorite people that I associate with he's he's he takes the law of attraction in the brain and breaks it down to a physical level, where like, can be more real for those people don't really believe in this whole mystical stuff because it's become mystical. But Dr. Joe Dispenza, and the way he just breaks it down. He has several he has one called rewired some you can find it on Amazon, I think or our iTunes. You can find it on YouTube in Spanish. But yeah, Dr. Joe Dispenza really just took everything from law of attraction, down to the physical level, it gets kind of nerded out a little bit too much detail for some people, but it's just like, wow, that actually makes sense. You know? And for me, I was like, Okay, so your personality, this is his, your personality becomes your personal reality. And I was like, Holy crap, that's so true. But you're just doing the same thing. You're going to work doing the same thing. You're making the same money. You're not out of your comfort zone, like we talked about before. You're not doing something like what kind of person do I have to be to make more money I have to become a person like that. You can't just say, Okay, I'm gonna make $100,000 more a year, this year, you could try, you could get lucky. But it's not going to be sustainable. You need to change to do something. So you have to change who you hang out with. You have to change who you let in your life, you lose people that when somebody gets starts complaining, if it's work related, I'll deal with it. If it's just random guests, or people in my life that come up to me complain about I might, you know, hey, excuse me for a second. And I walk away and they'll come back because I can't have that. I'm on a mission right now. I'm doing stuff things are popping for me. And they're not going as fast as I want to. I'll be real about it. I've had several setbacks, but those setbacks set me up for where I am today. I will never change anything because I'm grateful. While I'm going through this process, just like your podcast is going to explode. We're in our process right now. We have to be had peace and gratitude. That you know what, this is the journey. This is the part that's exciting while we're going through that journey. That's what's exciting. And yes, you have the goal in mind. Yes, you know, you're living in that future that you want to get to peace. So that's huge.

Dustin Steffey:

For me. Yeah, absolutely. And to close it off, I want to give you a platform here. If people want to get a hold of you, if people want to know more about the community if people want to invest in you know, taking some time with you and moving forward. How can they get

Joey Whalen:

a hold of you? Yes, absolutely. So we have a system in place for that, which is really beautiful. All of my social medias lead to it at some point. But if you just go to crypto manifesto, that cry PTO, manifesto ma N i F e sto.my, daily, d phi, d phi is d e f phi.com. And that'll put them in front of all the information with the credibility of Ryan shoes, and we all the all that wonderful stuff and talks about the the opportunity of the metaverse and and hyper verse and the community. So yeah, absolutely.

Dustin Steffey:

For our listeners, please go to www dot chopping with feiyr.com. And we will link Joey's profile to this episode. So that way, any information that you need will be linked to our website, and you guys will have a quick link to be able to click and get a hold of Joey, I'm sure he has his social media profiles on there as well. So you can kind of get a feel for him. And as always, we thank our listeners. I'm sure Joe will be very appreciative to answer any questions. He's a very approachable person. We, we love to talk to people so please feel free to reach out to him reach out to me reach out to Jaden. Joey, thank you for your time. Thank you for the wonderful interview and all the information. I think information is worth a lot more than money these days. So what for what you gave to us.

Joey Whalen:

Thank you. It's my honor and pleasure and I hope sometime in the future to be able to add value another time later.

Dustin Steffey:

Oh, absolutely. This isn't going to be the last time you all get to hear Joey speak we're going to have him on a couple more times as he progresses through his journey like we are so Joey Thank you buddy.

Joey Whalen:

Thank you so much.

Dustin Steffey:

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Joey Whalen

Crypto Coach and Leadership Development

Crypto Investor
Metaverse Community Builder
Father of my 5 year old daughter Eva
I love all different cultures!
Speak 3 languages
Lived overseas 4 years in Europe
Musician, Recording Artist and DJ
Played at Carnegie Hall NY when I was 16
Originally from Alabama
Lived in Georgia and Florida
Been in Reno now 12 years
Love Lake Tahoe and this area!