The Dirty Details of Crypto Currency with Guest Alisha Ann Kingrey

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Jaden Norvell: 1:05

This is the best stop for entrepreneurship and self development talk hosted by the doctor himself Dr. Dustin Steffey co hosted by entrepreneur and sports talk host Jaden Rush Norville. This is choppin with Fire.

Dustin Steffey: 1:43

Hello, chop nation you're joined with Dustin Steffey and Jaden Novelle what's up? is up everyone. Gosh Jadens back guys. I thought I had to send SWAT in after him because you know he missed crypto cowboy and kind of was MIA. I don't I don't know where he went. Where do you go Jaden?

Jaden Norvell: 2:01

So my laptop screen got a crack in it and the whole display failed. So it's been in the shop for two weeks. So that's where I've been just running around nearly same week, that app in my car. Some guy hit my car and I didn't have my car for a week. So I was literally without a car without a laptop. I was lost. I was in the gym all the time because I was just so stressful times it's gonna work out and we're excited to get back to him and I missed it.

Dustin Steffey: 2:31

You're a shit show of bad luck.

Jaden Norvell: 2:34

Wallet gate, phone gate cad gate

Dustin Steffey: 2:39

Are there any are there any other gates that you haven't had yet? Have it? Okay. All right. All right. Well, we have a special guest on today. Jaden, why don't you give her an introduction?

Jaden Norvell: 2:51

Okay, so we're here, Alicia, welcome to chopping with fire. Thank you for coming on with us.

Alicia Kingrey: 2:57

Thank you. I'm glad to be on with you guys.

Jaden Norvell: 3:00

So why don't you tell the audience a little bit about what you do.

Alicia Kingrey: 3:05

Okay, so again, my name is Alicia. Most of the people watching this podcast will know me as coach a. I am the a manager of a crypto company out of Florida.

Jaden Norvell: 3:20

What part

Alicia Kingrey: 3:23

Cocoa Beach,

Jaden Norvell: 3:24

Cocoa Beach. I've never been

Alicia Kingrey: 3:26

little beach florida. Yeah. Yeah. So the community has been together for six years. I actually jumped into the community three years ago really went from not even knowing what Bitcoin was never heard of it before. To like I said, Now being a manager of the company, I really caught on to everything click. I really jumped into the success of everything really click and three years later, I've never looked back. I'm the young retired world traveler now. Thank you crypto.

Dustin Steffey: 4:07

Leisha, aren't you a billionaire?

Alicia Kingrey: 4:11

Not quite billionaire, but I'm working on it. Give me some time. I'll be there.

Dustin Steffey: 4:17

All right, I'll take a step back millionaire sounds fine.

Alicia Kingrey: 4:20

I'm close. I'm close to millionaire.

Jaden Norvell: 4:25

Geez. Well, I just learned that Bitcoin and crypto are not the same thing in crypto refers to all the different types of currency. I just figured that out. So you're already teaching me stuff coach. So thanks.

Alicia Kingrey: 4:37

Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, so you know, Bitcoin is the one that started it all. And Bitcoin had so much success that everybody started jumping in. This guy created this digital coin which alt coin alternative coin crypto. This guy loved it so much. He created a coin. So now Everybody and their neighbor has created a digital coin all of them in the group known as crypto.

Dustin Steffey: 5:11

Okay, now there's there's a lot of coins that have popped up lately that I've never heard of, and they just poof come up in thin air.

Alicia Kingrey: 5:19

Right? Exactly. You know, even Chase Bank A lot of the big banks are even in the beginning they were like, everybody was saying the same thing. Bitcoin is a scam crypto is never gonna work. It's never gonna fly. Here we are, you know how many years later? The big banks are not fighting anymore. They realize the crypto crypto space is actually the future of money. So everybody is jumping on the boat.

Dustin Steffey: 5:54

But we've had we've had a couple of guests on your your third episode of the five episode series. Right. So we've had Joey Whelan on and we've had John means on which you're very close to.

Alicia Kingrey: 6:07

Yes, yes, my brother. How do you how do you know John again. Um, so through work. When I was living up in Sacramento, I, we, me and my husband bumped into him at the store and it just clicked from there. John has the same birthday as me. And then we were invited to his birthday party and then it just yeah, just clicked. We just all, you know, really gelled really well. And we've kept in touch all these years. That was how many years ago Dustin?

Dustin Steffey: 6:43

My wife we five big girls, I was a hell of a birthday party. Let me tell you.

Alicia Kingrey: 6:49

There was a long time ago.

Dustin Steffey: 6:51

Jaden, I don't know if you know this, but John, not only is he crypto cowboy, right? I told you he's an Elvis impersonator, too. So this guy walks out in his full blown Elvis suit and starts just like performing for his own birthday. For

Alicia Kingrey: 7:09

movies. He's, Oh, yeah. Johnny Reno is his nickname. Like, yeah, he's just a lot of fun. And he I still have this scarf I got from that birthday. Do you remember when he was tossing all the scarves? He was rubbing them around his neck and tossing them out to the ladies. Everybody was going crazy for Elvis. It was a lot of fun.

Dustin Steffey: 7:34

He like almost out of clothes at that point. I can't remember. I don't know.

Alicia Kingrey: 7:39

It could have been it was that kind of party.

Jaden Norvell: 7:43

Steph Steph was at this party.

Dustin Steffey: 7:45

Yeah.

Jaden Norvell: 7:50

I was really up to how much crypto to pay you to see it over. So personation for my birthday, Dustin.

Dustin Steffey: 7:56

I'm not gonna keep you can't keep your

Jaden Norvell: 7:59

clothes on. Okay.

Dustin Steffey: 8:01

I can't make any guarantees they'll stay on. Hey, how much know the question is Jaden? How much crypto do I have to pay you to do a weekend impersonation?

Alicia Kingrey: 8:18

Oh my gosh. Oh, weekend. That is so awesome.

Dustin Steffey: 8:23

Oh my gosh. He looks exactly like him. Huh?

Alicia Kingrey: 8:26

He's cuter than the weekend. The weekend was cute until he went all crazy surgery saying weird I don't know. Yeah, so yeah, you've definitely dated definitely has the weakened beat now.

Jaden Norvell: 8:42

Every every time I go out it's the same the same thing.

Dustin Steffey: 8:47

Really the problem doesn't have the voice of an angel. So that kind of is where he fails.

Jaden Norvell: 8:54

Why? Edgy roasted by podcast voice to

Dustin Steffey: 9:01

stop the cow. Anyway, let's let's get let's get a little more serious here. So there's a lot going on in crypto right now in mind you as we're recording this. Crypto is kinda in the tanker right now. And I don't mean that negatively. It's just crypto so volatile, and people that have been in the business understand and know how volatile it is. And Alicia, I kind of wanted to give you an opportunity to kind of speak on that a little bit. help ease some mines because a lot of people that are listening to our podcast right now are experienced in crypto, but then there's another half that's listening that's trying to learn and get involved and understand and figure out when to invest, why to invest. Why is crypto the future so can you shed some light on that?

Alicia Kingrey: 9:55

So number one thing that you have to keep in mind when it comes to crypto I'm talking about Bitcoin Litecoin now, Bitcoin is the most volatile that's why everybody trades Bitcoin. That's why it's the big guy, the most popular guy. I really don't even mess with the altcoins unless if it's like a stable coin, just because you know, it could take you six months to get back to recover your loss on an altcoin so I don't mess with them. I stick with the big boys and I absolutely love Bitcoin. Like you said, we are the market looks like it's tanked right now. But being in the business for three years being a crypto entrepreneur being a hodler of Bitcoin, this is just a phase. It is just a phase, Bitcoin goes up, Bitcoin goes down, Bitcoin goes up, Bitcoin goes down, when should you buy yesterday? But especially in the time of a dip, no, a dip is when the market goes way, way, way down. Right now is the best time to buy. So it was about I would say probably two ish years ago, Bitcoin went from like 10,000 to 3000 lost a third lost two thirds of its value, which is a much much bigger drop than we've seen right now. But what happened was when I bought I jumped on the bought the excuse me the buy immediately, I bought Bitcoin as soon as it hit 3000 I bought one. Well, I mean, what was it I had to wait not even that much, I didn't even have to wait that that long. And off of that one by I made over $80,000 So you know, you have to people are not used to a volatile situation when it comes to their assets. You buy a house it fluctuates a little but you know, the housing market in case of in unless if you're going through a crazy, crazy recession, we see the housing market about the same, our money is stable. We never see the price of our money dip to too much. Bitcoin has totally changed the game. You're gonna see your super super lows and your super super highs. But it's the people that can wait it out through the storm and be patient that have become Bitcoin billionaires, millionaires, Bitcoin rich.

Jaden Norvell: 12:49

I got a question. Why? So I'm hearing it kind of sounds like the stock market almost. But why is it so low right now? I don't, I don't know. Why would why is it low? I have no idea.

Alicia Kingrey: 13:03

So think about Bitcoin and all crypto. They are not money. So that's the first rule of thumb when it comes to digital coins. They are not money. They are assets when you own a coin. That's an asset that you have. So okay, so think about that during the low times. Everybody right now is running to sell their Bitcoin, I don't want to lose more. But if you think about this as an asset, if I buy a house for $100,000, the market crashes for a minute, my house is down to 75,000. Is that the time to sell my house? No, you gotta wait until the market not only comes back to even that goes up a little bit before you sell that so you can get your money back, right. Okay. So right now we are on the brink of a recession. Inflation is crazy. The stock market has plummeted. And whales Okay, so whales are the Bitcoin billionaires. These are people who are huddling billions, millions of dollars in Bitcoin. They literally control the market 100% They control it. I can't compete with these guys, even with as much money as I have. I'm a small fish in a big pond, small fish and big sea. So these guys got scared when the stock market crash they got scared they thought that Bitcoin was going to go down as well. They sold off billions of dollars in Bitcoin, making it less popular, making it less valuable. So that's why we're seeing the money drop right now. But you know, like when you're trading when one coin goes up, there's just automatically going to be another coin that goes up. Or excuse me, when one coin goes down, you're automatically going to see one that goes up. So, you know, traders are not worried about the market right now. hodlers are not worried about the market right now. I am not going to sell my house because right now the worth is so low. I'm going to keep that asset. I'm going to wait till the market doubles again. Then I'll either sell it or I'll keep huddling like I do I'm addicted to Bitcoin. I don't sell my bitcoin.

Jaden Norvell: 15:39

What's what's hot? What's a hot?

Alicia Kingrey: 15:42

Okay, so years back, it was just kind of like an accident. Hold h o l, D, is to hold Bitcoin? Well, somebody put the wrong hashtag. They did H O D L, one time, instead of h o l, D. And it just became popular. Everybody caught on? It was like, Hey, I'm gonna huddle Bitcoin too. So it all started from a mistake, and everybody's just kept going. It's really funny. Yeah.

Dustin Steffey: 16:19

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Alicia Kingrey: 17:35

Right? Exactly. Absolutely.

Dustin Steffey: 17:39

And with that being said, we have to treat it as such an asset. And so another thing that was a big was a big thing that I learned from this right now to unpackage is the fact that you have to be smart about when you buy and you have to be smart about when you sell. So for most of us seasoned veterans that have crypto so you and I, because Jaden is not there yet. I'm teaching him but he's not there yet. Okay, we buy, we buy on the dips, and buy on the dips, because you get it cheaper. And when it inflates, then you're making more money off of that dip. Yeah. And then and then if you sell or want a day trade or whatever you day trade on the height, the heightened version of it. So not the dip because if you're selling on a dip, you're losing money, right? That's that's kind of what we've unpackaged thus far Correct?

Alicia Kingrey: 18:37

Exactly. Let me throw one thing in there too about the market because everybody is super scared right now with the market going down. They think you know, the YouTube videos are saying is this the end of the end of Bitcoin? Is this the end of crypto? So I already told you the whales manipulate the market. The whales look for this very opportunity. It's the same thing. Flip your mind flip your perspective, think about a real estate investor. They re for the housing market to crash. Why? Because that's the time to buy. That's it during the crashes is when people make money. So that's another reason why the market is manipulated which should take away some of your fear. No. We are just getting started in the digital world. It is not going anywhere. I say everybody jump in right now while the getting is good.

Dustin Steffey: 19:42

So another hard question that has come up is for the the new person that's investing in crypto. Why should they? What what is the future of crypto and I know it's kind of hard to like talk about because there's no glass ball But there is research and writing on the wall as to where we are heading with crypto, you want to shed some light on that.

Alicia Kingrey: 20:07

That's right. So, okay. Let's talk about the asset part of it for a minute. Let's talk about real estate investing for a minute. How are most of the people in the world rich through investing, but you have to have several hundreds of 1000s of dollars millions of dollars to invest, to get into the market to even make money. While Bitcoin and digital coins in general have totally changed that you can buy $100 in Bitcoin and Hottel it like Bitcoin is taken every day average Joe, and given him the opportunity to invest in the best currency that the world has ever seen.

Dustin Steffey: 20:59

So for someone new to invest within crypto, what is your recommendation?

Alicia Kingrey: 21:06

I'm not a financial advisor. So I do have to throw that disclosure out there. I just a person. Exactly. We are just people who are taking advantage of this amazing opportunity and literally getting rich off of crypto, I would say bitcoin is the big dog. Now the other ones, they are called alt coins, they're also known as shit coins. I worked in the casino industry myself for 14 years. The big huge casinos were not built off of winners, let's face it. I feel like this on the alt coins. Now there are some that have come up and some that have performed pretty well, I think that you need to look at the history of each coin, before you're gonna throw your hard earned money just into the air. To me, it's too big of a chance to run around buying up little every little altcoin that comes up. Because who knows if it's going to do anything. For one who knows if you're going to lose money. If you're even going to break even, it's just a chance. And I obviously I took a small chance with Bitcoin three years ago, my investment of $300.03 years ago made me rich. But I didn't go out. It's like I was telling you guys a minute ago, do not buy a car that you don't know how to drive. Do not buy something that you don't know how to operate. There's just too big of a chance a risk taken with altcoins in my opinion, in my opinion.

Dustin Steffey: 22:54

So I'm looking at my portfolio right now. Right? And aside from having a small portfolio with you and your company, I have my own portfolio within Exodus, which John had explained last week, which is a wallet that I own the keys to right. So I have one Aetherium coin in there. I have point 009 of a Bitcoin because I'm more into Aetherium than I am into bitcoin in my opinion. I think Aetherium is going to overtake Bitcoin at some point.

Alicia Kingrey: 23:26

I agree. I like a etherium it's a good one.

Dustin Steffey: 23:29

I have. I have about four Solana coins which Solana was doing so well until while this recent crash right now but I am staked within Solana which we'll talk about staking in a second here because staking makes you money to write I have 190 Cardon knows I have about five polka dots. And then my last one or my last couple are Shiva new and polygon. So, I know she was a meme coin. But you know, I was like, whatever. Let's have some fun with it.

Alicia Kingrey: 24:01

It's so cheap. Why not? Yeah, really let it but why not? You never know.

Dustin Steffey: 24:07

When we talk about my portfolio right? There's hundreds upon 1000s of points, minus spread between eight

Alicia Kingrey: 24:16

and I'm gonna tell you when I was a day trader when I was trading floor myself, trying to do the hard leg work by myself. I had the same portfolio as you outside of the sheep II knew and what was the last one you said?

Dustin Steffey: 24:32

Stellar lumen, which I'm a fan of

Alicia Kingrey: 24:34

stellar lumens. I didn't have that one either. I had I traded Litecoin I had a ton of ADA, a ton. Now that one made me some money at one time too. So the Aetherium the Bitcoin, I think you're in the right place. I like all of those coins, but you know, those are the most popular coins that are traded the ones that you've just listed. So I agree be, if you're gonna get into an altcoin check the market value, check the popularity of the coin, see what the coin is doing and get into something like one of the ones that you just mentioned. This is a much better bet than Yeah, just jumping into some Doge because Elon Musk thought it was gonna go somewhere. He's a billionaire, he can do what he wants to with his money, I'm not into losing money, I'm into making money.

Dustin Steffey: 25:32

Right, Alicia Dogecoin is going to the moon out here

Alicia Kingrey: 25:35

to the moon to the moon. So is Elon Musk.

Dustin Steffey: 25:42

Anyway, let's transition into staking because we did bring that up and that is a whole nother layer within the Bitcoin or not, not even Bitcoin sorry, within the crypto world. Now writing for me, is where I make more money than just letting my coin set right, because the coins that you have for a higher percentage rate than a normal traditional savings account. So would you please shed some more knowledge on staking for our listeners.

Alicia Kingrey: 26:19

So staking is where you agree to let a platform vest your money for you. No different companies have different time limits, some are three months, some are six months, some are a year. So and say just as an example, say you get to hold your money for three months with a company, and they'll give you you know, 3% earnings on your money. But then if you hold it for six months, they're gonna give you four and a half percent on your money. If you let them hold your money for one year, money being your digital asset. For one year, they may even throw in like a whopping five or 6%. So and it's all you know, everybody in the game knows the same thing. It's all about patience. The longer you hold anything, the more money you make.

Dustin Steffey: 27:14

Let's let's be realistic here. I'm not a financial advisor, like we already had for the disclaimer, but I'm looking at the interest rates right now for a normal savings account with fiat currency. Oh, gosh. And right now, our savings accounts ladies and gentlemen are making a whopping point 000 1% interest rate right now. Right? So if I'm a betting man, I'd rather put my savings into some digital currency and let it hold there for a year to get the 6789 10% back and make more money on that then I would keep it into a bank right now to be honest,

Jaden Norvell: 28:01

I want to play devil's advocate right over devil's advocate you said last episode that the bank and I agree with you can do whatever they want with your money right? So if you put a stake in Kenya you only stake certain coins and then they hold it and they can do whatever they want to or is it different

Alicia Kingrey: 28:22

so when you stake when you let them hold your money and listen, I want to throw this main point out there before we go any farther. The banks the big banks have been doing the same thing with your money for hundreds of years. This is what people don't know. Dustin asked me Why do you think digital coins? Are you know great or why do you think people should How have they helped the everyday man Chase Bank Bank of America my bank account in Turkey my bank account in Mexico, every single bank anywhere in the world takes the money that you put in your account. And they trade it on the forex market Forex meaning foreign exchange and there's also now even the digital money is coming into play. So the main saying that digital currency has done for us is when we put our money into digital currency into Exodus are into one of these staking platforms. This gives us the earnings on our money. Not Chase Bank. Not my Ziraat bank in Turkey. Not my Mexican bank. See, like Dustin said, they're giving you Okay, so they're trading your money every single day. They have professional traders that are trading your money every single day. They're probably making 60 or 70% earnings on your money weekly? And how much are they sharing with you? 0.0001%, that's close to nothing zero. However, when you take your money, and you put it into a place where you can vet it for 90 days, six months, one year, and you're making up to 12% a month on your return, which one would you rather, digital currency has put us back in the driver's seat, not the big banks.

Dustin Steffey: 30:39

And that is where the light bulb clicks right there. So let's unpackage this a little bit. So here's the light bulb moment right now, investing in crypto isn't necessarily a bad thing. Because you're in control, you can stake you can bring some money back to yourself of the money that you already earned, versus paying a bank to hold your money, use your money and give you not even if it's like less than a fraction of a percentage. It's like a crumb of a percentage. If you asked me. So all day long as an analytical person, I'm going to take crypto over a savings account any day of the week. So

Jaden Norvell: 31:23

what's the dangerous some of the dangers of doing that? Is there any I mean, well, the danger here, we No, nobody's gonna mess with our money in the bank.

Dustin Steffey: 31:33

But is is the bank secure? This is this is the underlying thing that that people don't understand. And, and this is where the light bulb needs to click for. Not only you Jaden, but for our listeners, the bank could lose our money, and our money could disappear and be gone, it is not safe. Actually, it is it's actually the opposite. It is it could at anytime if we crash, disappear. Whereas with crypto, we're in charge of that money. And we still have that money. Because again, as Alicia said in the beginning, you're investing in an asset, versus putting tangible money into a place where people can spend it. Okay. And not only on top of that, you also have to realize you're in control, you're in the driver's seat. So what John was saying in the prior episode, about having an exodus wallet, and an encrypted computer and all of that stuff, he has that stuff on purpose, because nobody can take that money except for him. Unless he, I don't know, accidentally loses his keys. And someone can hack into it, which it's very, very hard to do. Super hard.

Alicia Kingrey: 32:49

I guess my understanding exodus has never been hacked. So if I can say a little bit on the risk thing to now, the market is risky, it is volatile, and everybody has to know, yes, there is a risk. But nobody on this planet has ever made millions of dollars without some kind of a risk. I mean, life is a risk. When you walk out your house and get in the dangerous thing that you drive in. With all the other dangerous things on the road. That's very risky. But you take the risk, because you have to get somewhere because you've got the doctor's appointment in sight, or you've got your kids school in sight, you know, the end game, you got to take the risk to get to the other side, where you sit at home and you have nothing. I saw my friends getting rich around me and I didn't want to be the person that had the vehicle sitting in my driveway, and I never touched it because there was a little bit of risk. Let's talk about risk. Canadian truckers were losing their bank accounts. They were being frozen. They were being held. They were being taken, they were being stopped. I won't go into a lot of that. But you know what was going on with the Canadian truckers. Now, those Canadian truckers who had crypto, nobody could touch their accounts. Nobody could freeze their accounts. Nobody could hold their accounts. Those people never skipped a beat. They still had all of their assets in hand. Because again, digital money puts the power of your money, your money back into your hands where it belongs. Nobody can take it. Nobody can can freeze it. Nobody can do anything with it. It is your money.

Jaden Norvell: 34:44

We've convinced me I think it's kind of I'm old school a little bit and I grew up with the bank. And I think that this is the future in the most secure way. Going forward, probably to hold your money out Mmm, sounds sounds good. What happens if like, the have the server's everyone down like or anything that doesn't ever happen? Like, what if something like that happened, then what? What do you do?

Alicia Kingrey: 35:15

Please go ahead, Dustin,

Dustin Steffey: 35:20

I was about to say I'll let you answer that my answer was going to be simple with Exodus. It's offline. So Oh, my God, he is there.

Alicia Kingrey: 35:27

Okay, that's right. That's right. And like I have a nano s ledger. Now I keep my bigger money. My, you know, the biggest amount of my crypto is kept in there because it's a hard wallet. It's offline. I'm not an affiliate for Nano s, I'm not advertising for them. I'm not getting paid to say this. It's just a really, really safe way to do crypto. The trade the trade was it called trays or wallet is the same thing. There's the Nano X, stuff like that again, Exodus. Now, so there's in wallets there's a difference between decentralized and centralized, like Dustin was saying, You're decentralized wallet is going to be offline, it's going to be nobody has access to this whatsoever. The government the banks, that your mom doesn't even know how much you have in this wallet until you tell her to where if you go with something like crypto.com, Kraken coin base, these are centralized these are actually have to answer to the government when it comes to how much crypto I'm buying. Now I get a 10 99k from crypto.com Every year, they are actually tracking how much I spend how much Bitcoin I sell how much I make, they track everything. So if you need something that's less trackable, you put the majority of your money into a nano or an exodus wallet, and you save your living expense for crypto.com or one of the ones that has to report your income. Which puts you in the driver's seat. I know how much I need to to claim every year. And I keep a count every month how much Bitcoin I'm selling how much I'm using, I keep really close eye on my crypto.com to get my money right there in the bracket that I needed out. I am my own financial advisor.

Dustin Steffey: 37:44

For me, I I use Coinbase and Gemini to buy and I immediately transfer it to Exodus meaning, right I get if I get any sort of ledger, it's just showing that I'm not making a profit. And I'm just buying and that's it.

Alicia Kingrey: 38:01

Okay, now, brother, I need to tell you an update. We've got an app set at Exodus update. Are you ready for this? 1am I

Dustin Steffey: 38:09

going to be changing wallets?

Alicia Kingrey: 38:12

No, you're going to be dumping Coinbase and the other one possibly.

Dustin Steffey: 38:17

So I'll be able to buy straight from Exodus finally straight from Exodus even better. That's a graven. Better

Alicia Kingrey: 38:25

that is right. And I actually tried it. I tried it two days ago I bought Litecoin you throw in your credit card, it comes to your account in less than five minutes done. It's the easiest thing I've ever done was to buy crypto on Exodus.

Dustin Steffey: 38:42

That's good news considering I've lost out on many of fees for transferring from Coinbase and Gemini to Exodus.

Alicia Kingrey: 38:50

Okay, not only that, but when you first buy with coin base, now a girl on my team just lost half of her investment. She wanted to throw 700 into staking with me. Coin base made her wait for nine days after she bought her light coin to be able to transfer it well. We all know the market just crashed. So her wants $700 by on her credit card is now like 407 bucks. And she's still waiting for her money to be released. So she can stake

Dustin Steffey: 39:30

B and that's that's the problem. So not only do we have to be smarter about how we invest in crypto, but we also have to be smart about timing. So we already talked about the dips and buying in the dips, what we didn't talk about with respect to staking and staking immediately. So it's it's all based off of time. It's all based off of research. It's all based off of doing your homework. If you want to be your own financial adviser, then I suggest that you do your home Omar or else, like you said, Alicia, you're gonna be driving that Porsche into a wall, because you don't know how to drive it. And we all know that Jaden has bad luck so that Porsche is going through a couple of walls.

Alicia Kingrey: 40:12

Now, of course Jaden, stay home.

Jaden Norvell: 40:16

And I stay on his thing. Someone drive me. Okay. So if I didn't want to be my own financial advisor, okay, what some company there's got her Bitcoin firms that like help you. I'm thinking like for older people that don't necessarily want to do all this stuff and all this research, or they're trusted people they can that will help them

Dustin Steffey: 40:36

here. And I'm glad you asked that, because the whole reason we have Alicia on here is to transition into that because Alicia has a great strategy.

Alicia Kingrey: 40:45

Okay, so you know, Bitcoin digital currency, it is literally your money. It is literally like a car that you just bought. Nobody, no salesman is going to come to your house and be like, I need to show you how to operate this car. It's up to you to figure out how to use it right. Now. I like I said, I'm a manager of a crypto company. And when somebody joins my team, that is exactly what I do. I walk that person completely through the process. I help them discover explore different wallets that might work best for them. Show them where to place their crypto to make the maximum amount of money. That is my job in a nutshell.

Jaden Norvell: 41:36

Oh, my true. Yeah. All right. How do I spend? How do I spend my money? So you've made me a lot of money? Where am I able to spend it as of today? Where's crypto accepted? Like that type of stuff.

Alicia Kingrey: 41:51

So there are more and more companies are also adapting the digital payment system. You can buy airplane tickets, now, you can pay for hotels, you can go to things like bit refill.com You can actually buy gift cards on there. If you do sign up for crypto.com like I did, I have a Visa card, a Visa debit card. Now, like I said, I am a world traveler. I've lived all over Asia, all over the Middle East, all over Europe, all over Mexico. All over the United States. 28 states here,

Dustin Steffey: 42:35

let's not brag, okay? All right.

Alicia Kingrey: 42:38

I'm just telling you that to say that I've never hit a bump in the road yet with my credit card, my crypto.com card. It works in every country in every state that I've been to. Now also, there is a section on the crypto.com platform where you can buy pretty much any gift card that you can think of straight across with crypto. Like with me, when I use my debit card, I have to actually sell my bitcoin and then put my Fiat on the card. The second option is to just buy the gift card that you need. Say it's Walmart, say at stater brothers say it's Bass Pro Shop, I can just buy that gift card directly with my crypto and spend it it's an online card, they email me my number right away, it's ready for use in two minutes. It is easier than easy to use crypto in the world that we're living in today. So well, they're very easy.

Jaden Norvell: 43:47

What some stuff, you traveled the world and you haven't had a problem with using the cards so what some things you would like to see happen even further, as far as to integrating it into how everybody spends money and uses money or assets

Alicia Kingrey: 44:05

I guess. I'll just be glad when more people adopt the digital payment system. Because again, right now, for me to spend my bitcoin I have to sell it first into Fiat. That puts me back in the system back in the Matrix. The reason why we buy digital coin is to get out of the matrix in the first place. If I can just transfer my coin directly into shopping somewhere without you know, just skipping that whole middle part altogether. That's not only for me, I have 1500 people on my team and there's that number is growing by hundreds every month. It's just this Bitcoin digital thing is taken off. People are moving more that way. So we need easier ways for people to use the money that they're making today. But it's coming, it's coming. You see, everybody is slowly but surely everybody is jumping on the digital train. It's coming,

Dustin Steffey: 45:16

when else that we didn't discuss that I think is important is when it comes time to buy a house, buy a car, buy whatever big purchase you have. You can also use that crypto to take a loan out on yourself and pay yourself. That's what John said, Right? In the episode. Last, yes, yes. And I want to reinforce that as well. So, again, keeping up with the theme that we've created for this episode, and for today, right? You are the financial advisor of yourself, you really can do a multitude of things with digital currency. I want people to get past the fact that it's so volatile, we all know it, yes, it's volatile. We know, here's the deal. I'm sitting on the crypto, I'm not spending it every day. So I'm I'm sitting on it for it to grow. So when it's time to make a big investment, I can take some of that as a loan out of myself to pay for whatever Fiat thing that I'm buying, right? And then pay myself back again. So I never really lost that investment.

Jaden Norvell: 46:22

And just people like Alicia that will help you make smart choices with it too.

Alicia Kingrey: 46:27

Right? So you don't think about if you're in a platform that paid you 1213 14% every month. It's like having your own money tree. So you know you invest a little you live off of the earnings. You never spend your actual money. And you just keep making more money. It's it's crypto is just an amazing thing. Amazing. So being your

Jaden Norvell: 46:55

own financial, do you think there ever be space for like a crypto bank or something that you could go and just like ATM with crypto and get cash from or Viewers

Alicia Kingrey: 47:05

all over the world? They're all over the world right now. Right now in the town that I'm in. I'm in Southern California right now visiting my daughter. And in this town, there's at least one Bitcoin ATM. But if I go even further down to San Diego, there's quite a few of them. I check you could do Google Search Bitcoin ATMs across America. And you'll see they're popping up everywhere.

Dustin Steffey: 47:35

Oh, the last time I was in San Diego, I used Bitcoin to pay for my adventure of being on a scooter and going all around downtown San Diego.

Alicia Kingrey: 47:45

And you said you didn't invite me? Well, you know, I

Dustin Steffey: 47:48

didn't want to live closer than that. Listen, I didn't want to get into too much trouble. If I invite you the party starts

Jaden Norvell: 47:56

this picture and doesn't wipe out. That's true.

Dustin Steffey: 48:00

It's anyway, Alicia, if people want to get a hold of you, what is the best way to get a hold of you to kind of join the team, have a safe investment and kind of move forward with crypto.

Alicia Kingrey: 48:17

You know what you can call me directly. I mean, this is what I do full time I like I said I am retired at a very young age I do not have to work ever again and helping people is 100% my job right now that is what I dedicate my life to doing. Reach out to me directly at 870-495-6965. I will give you all of the information that you need. We'll explore different wallets. I'll show you how you can make up to 14% a month on your investment. And we'll all make money together.

Dustin Steffey: 48:58

Awesome. For our listeners that are already subscribed to us we're going to have a link within our website to all the leashes information so that way if you didn't get that number, she said it too fast. Whatever the case may be, all her information will be linked to this episode. We're also going to have a link within this episode. If you're ready to take the plunge. We're gonna put a link in this episode to just join in. Give us your monies so we can help you That's awesome.

Jaden Norvell: 49:27

I learned a lot. I'm actually excited. I got to a Dustin put me in have a shared account.

Dustin Steffey: 49:35

Alicia is aware of it because she's managing it.

Jaden Norvell: 49:39

Oh, boo, boo. Right see so guys, I got my money in crypto so and I Yeah, so let's go. I'm excited.

Dustin Steffey: 49:50

We won't tell you how much we have because it's a little it's a little little Yeah,

Jaden Norvell: 49:55

if I told you I'm gonna have to lock my doors you know?

Alicia Kingrey: 50:00

All right i hope you have a pitbull in that house protecting all your money

Jaden Norvell: 50:06

I do he's right here oh nice yeah he's not gonna doesn't have my dog

Alicia Kingrey: 50:13

our Bitcoin protector

Dustin Steffey: 50:16

he's gonna frickin lick so it's not going to work

Jaden Norvell: 50:19

is give a piece of piece of some peanut butter Pacino is broke

Dustin Steffey: 50:26

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