Unloading Emotional Baggage Feat Johannes Atlas

Dustin Steffey: 0:00

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Jaden Norvell: 0:51

This is the best stop for entrepreneurship and self development talk hosted by the doctor himself Dr. Dustin Steffey co hosted by entrepreneur and sports talk host Jaden rush, Norville. This is choppin with fire.

Dustin Steffey: 1:29

Welcome to another episode of chopping with fire you're joined by your hosts Dustin Steffey and

Johannes Atlas: 1:35

Jaden Norville. What's going on?

Dustin Steffey: 1:37

How you doing today, Jaden,

Jaden Norvell: 1:39

good, man. how about you?

Dustin Steffey: 1:41

I had a I had a good day today.

Johannes Atlas: 1:43

Well, you made it. My boy is here. He's in Colorado with me all the way from Nevada.

Dustin Steffey: 1:48

We're actually recording together today.

Jaden Norvell: 1:52

For the first time in forever.

Dustin Steffey: 1:56

It was a good day, we got a lot accomplished. I kicked your ass in a workout. nating and then you kicked my ass in throwing a football almost the whole fields lane. Okay. And then we just we just had fun today. And now we're to work to work man back to work. I'm excited to release this week's episode, we have special guest, Johannes Atlas. Yup. He was awesome.

Johannes Atlas: 2:27

Though. Shout johannes my boy. My calculations are correct. This episode should do very well.

Dustin Steffey: 2:34

You guys will get that inside joke when we transition into the interview for this episode. But anyway, to go to something more serious. He talks about a topic that I think is super important. I think a lot of people are weighed down by emotional baggage. And so he really brings to light how to unload the emotional baggage and move forward and kind of just live your life. Absolutely. That interview was really powerful. What are some key takeaways you took away from that?

Johannes Atlas: 3:07

I just liked how he talked about fighting adversity. If you guys don't know John as he was born with a limp arm so his muscles are underdeveloped in half of his chest area, right? So he had to overcome a lot of bullying and adversity in his life. And I think you guys can get some good lessons from listening to him.

Dustin Steffey: 3:27

I'd have to say I agree. And furthermore, I mean, look at the person he is today. He's a powerful and impactful person. He's doing public speaking for a numerous amount of organizations, including churches, and professional organizations. He's just an overall perfect example of overcoming any sort of adversity whatsoever and taking the negative and making it a positive. And he's somewhat of a jokester to say you got a great sense of humor as well. He definitely was funny. It was a fun interview for us. What are some other things that you want to bring up before we transition?

Johannes Atlas: 4:05

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Dustin Steffey: 4:24

Absolutely, that'd be a good chance to put named to face for Jaden. Unfortunately, I can't be there. And for those of you that cannot be there, please go to our patreon at www.patreon.com forward slash chopping with fire and you can make a small donation on there that'll go to cystic fibrosis as well.

Johannes Atlas: 4:43

Awesome. Keep smashing that like button, keep subscribing and keep listening every week as we appreciate sport, and enjoy the interview.

Dustin Steffey: 4:54

Jaden, I'm excited we have a very special interview today. Do you mind letting our chop listeners know what's going on.

Johannes Atlas: 5:02

Yeah, we're here with Johannes Atlas, an entrepreneur. He's also a public speaker. He talks about kind of getting over personal baggage and how to deal with some things that come up in day to day life. So I'm excited we brought journalists on here, he's gonna kind of get a better insight into self development. We talked, we talked a lot about it. Another one today. So super excited. Welcome to Chop Nation. How you doing? Awesome. Thank you guys. Thank you for the invite here. Always a pleasure. I'm doing great. I'm doing great today. How are you guys so far?

Dustin Steffey: 5:36

I cant complain. I'm excited every time I do an interview, and I'm able to learn something that helps me get better. So I'm excited.

Johannes Atlas: 5:47

I'm curious, man, I want to know, I want to hear about your now you I've kind of read up on you. And I know what you went through as a kid. But for our listeners who don't kind of start off with your story, and this is started day one and take us through? Definitely. So yes, like you said, my name is Johannes Atlas, and I was born with Poland syndrome. So you can see the difference in my hand here for those who might just be listening, just to give you an idea, my right hand can literally fit in the palm of my left hand. So polio syndrome is characterized by the underdeveloped chest and our muscles. So it's all on my right side, it's so little package deal here. So I don't have any chest muscle on my right side. So growing up, I wasn't very conscious of my hand in my body until probably thought about high school. But even before that, I played sports, I played baseball, basketball, football and tennis, I play Muay Thai. And I think the the thing that I'm very grateful for is my parents, they they never baby, they never like, oh, well, you know, it's, you know, it's okay. You know, you can, like, no, they just they allowed me to figure it out, it was never really like a conversation that will start you know, they, they basically, it, especially in playing sports, too, and how my parents raised me, the thing, in addition to that, what my parents did, the thing that I'm also very grateful for is that it gave me a mind to figure things out. Because I wasn't able to do everything like everybody else was. So like, when I played baseball, I would catch a throw up my left hand. And so I have to get over my glove on my left hand, I catch it, take the glove off, grab the ball, it's a quick little exchange, and I will throw it. And so but in that eight, like I said, it gave me the mind to figure things out, because it wasn't, you know, I can't do it like this. So my thing was, how can I, and that was a big thing. For me, that was something that carried out with me into my life today. How can I. So like I said, I didn't become very conscious of my hand until about high school. And you know, of course, in high school, you know, everybody wants to fit in and be cool. And so because I wanted to fit in and be cool. And ideally, this thing wasn't cool to me. So I hit my hand in my pocket, like, rigorously, if I wasn't doing something where I needed two hands, my hand was always in my pocket. Because for one, I was already afraid of what people would have to say, but then, you know, going through high school, I did get teased, and I did get made fun up and stuff. And so and just the reactions I would get from when people would go to shake my hand, they would go back and freak out. And and the thing was, is that in those times, like I let that stuff get, I let it get to me. And so it wasn't until like after high school, I graduated in college, and I ended up getting involved with this finance firm. And so though we talked about finance, it was more like a leadership and self development course. And so one of the things in in that when I was involved with them, they taught me to, you know, just being, you know, to grow and, you know, to desire more, and it taught me to think bigger to think more of myself, and you know, what I want my for my future. And so, you know, this is this is a crazy thing. Actually, as I think about this, I haven't, I've never, I think I've said this maybe on one of the podcasts, but so I was initially going to school for engineering. And so I was going to go for robotics and mechanical. And I, the thought I had in my mind, it sounds crazy as I say it out loud. But what I it sounded right in my mind. At the time, I was ready to sever my arm. And I liked it because I was going for robotics, I was ready to sever my arm and attach a robotic arm so that way I have full range of motion of both hands. But everything happens for a reason. And so I ended up not going to school for engineering. I guess I got involved with this finance firm. And like I said, I was taught by leadership self development, or we talked about finance was more like a leadership of self development course and so get involved with them. And then I actually ended up also getting involved with the Riverside Chamber of Commerce at the time. And as I'm involved with them, because you know, business one on one, you look somebody in the eye and you give them a firm handshake. And I was literally nervous to get into business because I didn't want to be reminded of all the reactions and facial expressions that I would get when I would go to shake somebody's hand and so for that reason, I was literally nervous to get into business but like I said, I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone and so I do it anyways. And but you know it's funny because, you know, business one to one, like I said, You look, somebody give them a firm handshake. And some people, they give a really firm handshake, I mean, a firm handshake. And I'm like, and they squeeze the crap out of my hand, I'm like, bro, relax, you see his little job. So it's all you know, I'm doing that. And it was between that and being involved with church, I remember there was one specific Sunday, where I'm just seeing everybody at the, you know, seeing all these people at the altar, and just these mid like macho men just up there at the altar dealing or dealing with life and crying in my younger 20s. I didn't get it at the time. But it was just like, I'm sitting there thinking like, Lord, what is like what is going on, like what's happened. And so it was like that moment that really gave me the desire to be a public speaker, because I'm like, Lord, if there's anything that I can do to help these people, then let me be a vessel to do that. And so, so get involved with public speaking, I start doing videos on social media. And at the beginning of 2020, I had my own event was called pressing toward the mark, my speaking organization is speaking to the UN us. So I had my first event. And so it was actually that year in 2020, I prayed because I just felt stuck. And I'm like, Lord opened my eyes to me beyond the limitations of my understanding. And so I was genuinely ready for this prayer. When I prayed, I was genuinely ready for the answer. And so about a week and a half, two weeks later, God opens up my eyes to the answer to going back to high school. In those moments of when I did get teased, I did get made fun of he opened my eyes to what I made it mean, choosing because the thing is that nobody can hurt my feelings unless I allow them to. And so in those moments, I made those moments mean that I'm not enough. So I made it me, I chose to make it mean that. And so since then, it's just been a process of healing from that. And growing out of that, and then becoming more aware of myself and looking into myself, and then just being aware of people and just taking notice of things. It's just been my that's been my journey since then. And so I've been doing videos on social media, you know, healing from baggage and trauma and whatnot.

Dustin Steffey: 12:12

So, in listening to all of that, a couple things resonated with me, one, I am a child of middle school in high school being made fun of not feeling like I fit in, and not just not feeling overall, like, good at all right. And I understand what you're saying with like, I probably could have controlled that a little bit better. Mine was weight induced, I've always been a big dude, I always will be a big dude. In my age, now I've I've accepted to be comfortable in my own skin, obviously, and obviously be healthy, in the same token in any manner that I feel is right. But in high school, you never and even middle school, you never really learned that because at the end of the day, it just hurts in general. So my my question to you is, in going back, and kind of realizing everything that you realize, how did you go about healing from all that emotional trauma that you had from your childhood, because I feel like a lot of us, myself included, and the listeners have some emotional trauma and baggage that they just can't seem to unload?

Johannes Atlas: 13:35

Yeah, you know, in, in my journey of healing and overcoming some of these things. And I've noticed as I read a number of books, and I've talked to, you know, I have a mentor that, you know, he's gone through things, and even my pastor, and just a number of men and other people who have dealt with similar things. And I've told them about what I've gone through in my process, and how I'm done. And I found a lot of similarities in my process, in compared to theirs. And so firstly, I would say is, you know, the first thing is that we have to have desire, having the desire to want to grow, having the desire to want to heal, having the desire to want to become a better person. And this is the thing the level of our desire will determine the rate at which we acquire. And so the our level of desire has to be high. Like we have to make an important thing to live and it's just making these things important. Healing, making healing, important growing as a person making it a priority. And so the next after that, I would say it's, it's awareness, being aware of what's going on with ourselves, you know, just taking notice of what we're doing and when we're doing and why we're doing. So like when we're at a certain place, you know, what if something's causing, noticing, you know, what's going on internally, noticing, you know, hey, if I'm talking to a certain person, I noticed that I feel this way or if I'm at a certain place, I notice I feel this way, or I'm doing a particular thing, noticing that I'm feeling this sway, because my thing for me was, there was a particular way that I would feel when I'm by myself. There was another way I would feel when I'm with like my close friends or family or my significant other. And then there was another way that I would feel, you know, everybody else, acquaintances and strangers who I'm with. And so because for me, I was I felt that I wasn't enough, I would behave in such a way that I wanted people to like me, I wanted people to see me in such a way. And so I would behave in such a way to get them to like me, I would just, I would do just a little bit extra, I would just, and as we take notice of our field, as I became that it's all safe for me, as I began to began to become more aware, taking notice of my feelings, and why I'm feeling this way, I would notice that, hey, when I'm, you know, talking to strangers, or when I'm, you know, talking to people at my church, or, you know, I would feel a particular way other than how I feel when I'm by myself or my point of homeostasis. And so, as we grow in our awareness, the thing is, we can't make it, it doesn't mean anything, as we're taking notice of these things. It doesn't mean anything. It's not right, it's not wrong. It's just what is. And so we just have to, it's just keeping tabs on why we're feeling what we're feeling. And even and so then the next step past, our awareness is our intention. And then being aware of our intention. Because like I said, so as we take notice of our awareness, and now notice, I was feeling such a way, this is a big question, okay, why am I feeling this way. So that digs in to my intention, and then come to find out my intention was, hey, I want these people to like me, I want them to see me such a way I want to be perceived like this. And so our intention is, is is major, it's our intentions, ours is a big thing. And this is also something that could that is that gets communicated beyond words is our intention. And so being mindful of that, being sure that we have the right intention, and then even a step past that as we are growing and noticing what's going on with us. And so as I was growing, you know, I wanted I want it to grow, I noticed that these things are happening to me, and I wanted to get over them, I wanted to, you know, be a you know, surrender these I want to get, get over these, I'm just tired of dealing with it. There has to be a level of willingness to surrender. As we take notice of our baggage, as we take notice of our trauma, there has to be a level of willingness to surrender these things that we're dealing with, as we take notice of what we are feeling as we take notice of what we're dealing with and how it's hurting me and all the pain that it's causing what it's doing to me and what it's doing to my life and how it's affecting me, as we're noticing all these things, we have to be willing to surrender. And this is the hardest part. But it's the most necessary part of it all, the willingness to let go of these things that are causing me pain, because now logically, I'm, I'm, I'm allowed to curse. But now, it logic can be logic can be tough to apply at times. And so I'll, I'll have to, like convince myself, like use logic, I'll have to it's a continuous thing for me what certain things but logically, it's like, why would I hold on to something that is causing me pain? Why would I do that? Why would I hold on to something that is that is self sabotaging my life? That's creating destruction, beyond my awareness, why would I hold on to these things. And so in that, we have to be willing to let go of these things. And then seek the healing portion or seek be seek the opposite of the whatever the trauma was. So my thing was, I'm not enough seeking, being enough for people who feel like they're not worthy, or they're unlovable, seeking the to basically just seeking to be made whole, to be healed, to be at peace inside to be fully at peace on the inside of whatever that individual may be dealing with. And whatever that looks like for them. The process is the same, but the way about of going about it may be different. But the process itself isn't saying having the desire to want to grow, the willingness to be grown our awareness. And awareness is super important. And assist as well. Let me touch on that real quick. One more thing with awareness. It's just taking notice of every as we're going about it and we're just living our life. Take notice of our thoughts, taking notice our emotions, taking notice of how we're feeling and what's causing these things. Why am I feeling this way? That is a major question. Why am I feeling this way? And as we're growing in our awareness, we have to take the time to investigate what's going on. So the desire, our awareness, the surrender, sorry, excuse me intentions, being mindful of our intentions, the willingness to surrender. And then last but not least, it's having faith that everything thing that we're what we're seeking will come, more will happen. So having faith that, hey, I'm going to be healed, I'm going to be my whole, everything's going to be okay. So that's, that's my, that was my, my process and in healing. So what are some of the day things you do to kind of keep your mindset where you need to be within yourself? Some examples might be like meditation or reading, or journaling, or some things that you do to keep yourself at peace. Yeah, so that's actually the what you had said, the first thing you had said was meditation. That's so important for me. Since I add, so last year, I quit my I was working with this company trooper and I quit my job and, and every day, I've just been in meditation and praying and read my word. And every day, I would just start out with with meditation, and over the past number of months since August, yeah, so I quit the end of August. And since then I meditate every day. And I've noticed a significant difference in my way of being and how I would feel throughout the day. So in that, the first thing I would start with is meditation. So with meditation, I would say that meditation, it's not about emptying ourselves, because I'm gonna get a little, little nerdy here for a second, scientifically. Scientifically speaking, with my spectacles.

Dustin Steffey: 21:25

exactly like that.

Johannes Atlas: 21:28

My calculations are correct. So actually, my calculations are correct. So this is no. But so Scientifically speaking, there are no voids, there's no such thing as nothing. Scientifically, there's no such thing as nothing, it's impossible to have nothing. And so it's also the same spiritually. Now, let me show you what I mean. So this water bottle, it's got what 10% of water in here, it's got a little bit of water here. But the rest of this, there's still something there, it's not empty, there's air in there. And so in that, it's impossible. To have nothing, something has to take its place, as the water leaves the bottle, something has to take its place. And so it's the same thing as we are meditating, when we it's not about emptying ourselves, but it's about filling ourselves with the right things, filling ourselves with light, filling ourselves with positivity and those things that are going to benefit us. And so that's one thing I would say, you know, in with meditation, but next aside from that, is being mindful of my intake of what I am, especially in this a big thing as far as music, being mindful of the things that I listen to the music that I'm listening to. Because if you if we really take the time to listen to the music, that we listen to the words and what they're talking about, they're all sex, drugs and money and kill them. And it's, you're filling with consider we're filling ourselves with that all day, every day. So it's like, if it's garbage in, then it's going to be garbage out. And so we have to be more mindful of what we are allowing ourselves to do, just being mindful of the music that we're listening to, because that plays an influence and especially at the beginning of your day, being mindful of what we're putting in because like I said, garbage in then it's going to be in garbage out. So fulfilling ourselves with these things all day that makes an influence it makes it it plays an effect on our lives. Now, I'll give you a prime example. When you go to the gym, you're not listening to you know some soft slow love songs or you know that's you're not gonna get a good workout doing that. You know, you're just listening

Dustin Steffey: 23:46

I might be listening to some like soft Slow Jams

Johannes Atlas: 23:55

really you're in love listening. Listen to the man that might be amazing but you want to get a good workout in the gym early

Dustin Steffey: 24:03

listening to some soft jams just because

Jaden Norvell: 24:09

T Swift

Dustin Steffey: 24:14

don't judge on that T swift

Johannes Atlas: 24:19

when I when I turned 22 I was bumping that song. I don't know about you, but I'm nearly 22 stop. That was my song

Dustin Steffey: 24:44

I was bumping some Miley Cyrus Party in the USA.

Jaden Norvell: 24:50

There you go. That that's the most dangerous dude in the gym. The dude that bumps the wierd music.

Johannes Atlas: 25:06

they say the morning is the most important time of the day a lot of the most successful people have a routine they do every morning What's your guessing you have one two so what what do you what's your kind of routine that you go through? Before you get to start your day to get your mind? Right besides said the meditation a little bit, yeah. Yeah. What do you do? Yeah, so exactly that, you know, the mind is it's the most influence the first 30 minutes of your day and so how we how we spend our mornings it's very important. So for me, you know, when I wake up, I'll put on a put on some some Christian music or you know, some worship or, you know, and you know, while I'm brushing my teeth, and then I'll go straight to my prayer room, and I'll sit and I'll meditate. And then after that, I'll pray and then I'll go read my work a little bit after that at some time after that, I'll go spend some time my wife have breakfast and then I'll go to the gym after that. That's like my typical typical morning. That's what you guys need to be doing as you take notes. That's a killer morning.

Dustin Steffey: 26:10

Can i borrow an Extra notepad because I just filled my whole book.

Johannes Atlas: 26:15

Don't take don't take notes, though. You're on my iPhone. Okay. It's a 20th century.

Dustin Steffey: 26:20

I'm sorry that I'm old.

Johannes Atlas: 26:23

So I got yelled at for having my phone out taking those notes you know, it actually makes a difference. Take a note like physically like seeing yourself writing it and taking notes. It subconsciously it makes it a little bit more of a difference than just saying I'm just this is the fact he

Dustin Steffey: 26:40

He doesn't listen to me so it's good that he's hearing that from you because I already told him like basically taking notes you retain 70% More than just typing it in that stupid iPhone

Johannes Atlas: 26:55

I dunno about the stupid part, but that yes, the rest of that Yes. Are you Android man? Dustin?

Dustin Steffey: 27:02

No my whole house and Jaden has been here, my whole house is iPhone it's Apple

Johannes Atlas: 27:07

Tony Stark as he's got everything he lights off for the casual is do really get up anywhere to turn off the lights

Dustin Steffey: 27:20

and even change the color of the lights. So Jaden, like I walked downstairs he setting the mood all right in everything it's crazy

Johannes Atlas: 27:33

Thats cool man locks and unlocks the house from your phone now you can just unlock the house on your phone. you dont even need a key anymore. it's crazy how advanced we're getting with technology. It's almost It's almost scary. I need that for my car. I've lost my car keys like eight times

Dustin Steffey: 27:51

remember Jaden when we get you a Tesla one of these days when when one you can start it with your phone.

Johannes Atlas: 27:57

But yeah, when the time I get a tesla drive you drive to you parked the car in a parking garage come pick you over the front, right? Have breath mints and stuff go to the gas station pickup itself up with gas pick out some soda pops ready for you when you have a Taco Bell just already just pull up oh yeah, she's back. be talking to you chips can be able to give you attitude in arguments in the car.

Dustin Steffey: 28:29

I wanted to extra sour cream on that gordida

Johannes Atlas: 28:37

goodness. It's gonna be like remember when people get to Bluetooth. You didn't know if they're like talking to themselves, or they're just with the car just yelling at the Tesla. Don't like don't pull up with your windows down, make sure those things are up if you're doing all that, like And who's this in the car today?

Dustin Steffey: 29:02

So my my question is on your public speaking side. Would that mean said Who do you predominantly speak to? And then what was your hardest, like, public speaking event? And then what was your most recent?

Johannes Atlas: 29:22

Yeah, so my, my primary audience is just millennials millennial generation. That's where an interesting or an interesting generation, I felt like that. I felt like there's a lot more to us and yet, you know, we all we all need help. And so just to be a voice for us, you know, whatever fashion I can and that's my primary audience. My hardest one or my toughest one was shoot, I mean, just when I first got started that I felt like that was the toughest is you know, just working over the nerves and and you know, just in deal and this was when I first got started doing public speaking that was before I became aware of You know what's going on within me knowing that or not not realizing that I feel I deal with this feeling of not being enough and so being up there on stage and not quite being able to fully be myself on stage was was the hardest but now you know, up there and a little bit more comfortable are a lot more comfortable actually, you know what lot more confident being up there and fully feeling like I can fully express myself now. My most recent speaking event was a so I just I do podcasts. Prior to being on podcast was my event like in person event was in 20, the beginning of 2021. I had my speaking event speaking to the venue as the organization the event was called prepping for the mark.

Dustin Steffey: 30:49

Awesome experience like podcasting in itself is is one thing, but going out and speaking to people and physically seeing them, it's a whole different ballgame. So I applaud you for that. Because I know my first public speech, I sat there and I started for the first or I don't know, two, three minutes, people were laughing. I got awkwardly like silence, I started cracking jokes, because that's what I do when I get nervous. And JD knows I'm a horrible joke cracker. So those jokes were not that great at all. Coming in with a dad jokes. Oh, man, it's worse than the dad jokes. I mean, I'll be cracking like kindergarten jokes. Like, like, Give me Give me one of the jokes? No, no, thank you. If my calculations are correct, I'm good. How can people get a hold of you if they want to reach out to you if they want to book you maybe for a republic speak or just kind of asking questions to be able to unload their, their baggage and kind of learn how, in the same manner as you

Johannes Atlas: 32:00

Yeah, you can reach out to me on social media, that's the primary way to get to get all right now. So on Instagram, my handle is Jo speaks it's J O underscore speaks. And then on Facebook, they you can look up my organization and speaking to the U N mu.

Dustin Steffey: 32:18

And then for those of you that are following chopping with fire, we will have all the information posted under this episode with his social media and a picture of him. And Jaden will definitely be probably emailing him once a day because he needs help every day.

Jaden Norvell: 32:39

So I need to get that morning routine you got man, like

Johannes Atlas: 32:43

I'm here for you, brother. honestly, it makes a difference because it sets the tone for the rest of your day. Yep, yep. Winds your net. Where's your next event that where can people buy tickets to come? Yeah, so honestly, I don't I don't have anything planned like speaking events. I'm just right now just kind of permanently sticking to podcasts and working on a book at the moment. So just kind of getting some things kind of honed in here. Yeah, between that you know, speaking at church a lot as well.

Dustin Steffey: 33:14

So we want to thank you for coming on. First and foremost, you are an amazing person, amazing public speaker. We are blessed to have you on our podcast. We really thoroughly enjoyed the interview. So thank you first and foremost. Thank you. Thank you. Definitely for all our listeners out there. If you need some support. Go ahead and reach out. Johannes is ready to go

Johannes Atlas: 33:39

yes yes thank you guys. Yes thank you by the way and Man To God be the glory I'm just a I'm just a vessel here so I'm just doing what I was designed to do. But yeah, if you guys ever have questions or anything feel free to reach out reach me on Instagram and and we'll chop it up and see and see how might be able to help you out.

Dustin Steffey: 33:57

Perfect thank you

Jaden Norvell: 33:59

Thanks.

Dustin Steffey: 34:52

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